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Originally Posted by Grace2Squeak
The Trinity must be affirmed by Christians
So we all understand the implications of denying the Trinity?
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The Trinity is a very important doctrine within Christianity.
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The trinity, which is no where to be found either in concept or word in the Bible, actually hinders most who claim to be Christian from fully knowing the only true God and one sent by the only true God. -- John 17:3.
Not once, from Genesis to Revelation, is the one sent by Yahweh (Isaiah 61:1,2) ever said to be Yahweh, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Any who claim otherwise do so by use of the great spirit of human imagination, assumptions based on imagination, and by placing the imagined assumptions upon whatever scriptures they present to allegedly prove that Jesus is Yahweh.
There is absolutely nothing whatsoever in the Bible that offers any proof that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is more than one person, while the testimony of the Bible is always to distinguish the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob from his messiah, his anointed one, the one whom He has anointed and sent. -- Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Isaiah 61:1,2; Acts 3:13-26; Hebrews 1:1,2.
This unipersonal God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, by means of his holy spirit, reveals through the scriptures that He Himself (Jehovah/Yahweh) is the only true God, the unipersonal God and Father of the Lord Jesus. Jesus has One who is the Supreme Being over him; Jesus is not his Supreme Being whom he worships, prays to, and who sent him, and whose will he carried out in willful obedience. (Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Matthew 4:4 [Deuteronomy 8:3; Luke 4:4]; Matthew 4:7 [Deuteronomy 6:16]; Matthew 4:10 [Exodus 20:3-5; 34:14; Deuteronomy 6:13,14; 10:20; Luke 4:8]; Matthew 22:29-40; Matthew 26:42; Matthew 27:46; Mark 10:6 [Genesis 1:27; Genesis 2:7,20-23]; Mark 14:36; 15:34; Luke 22:42; John 4:3; 5:30; 6:38; 17:1,3; 20:17; Romans 15:6; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 11:31; Ephesians 1:3,17; Hebrews 1:9; 10:7; 1 Peter 1:3; Revelation 2:7; 3:2,12)
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, by means of his holy spirit, reveals through the scriptures that Jesus was sent by Yahweh, speaks for Yahweh as his unipersonal God and Father, represents Yahweh, and was raised and glorified by the unipersonal God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Jesus never claimed to be, nor do the scriptures ever present Jesus as, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, whom Jesus represents and speaks for. — Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Matthew 22:32; 23:39; Mark 11:9,10; 12:26; Luke 13:35; 20:37; John 3:2,17,32-35; 4:34; 5:19,30,36,43; 6:57; 7:16,28; 8:26,28,38; 10:25; 12:49,50; 14:10; 15:15; 17:8,26; 20:17; Acts 2:22,34-36; 3:13-26; 5:30; Romans 15:6; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 8:6; 11:31; Colossians 1:3,15; 2:9-12; Hebrews 1:1-3; Revelation 1:1.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, by means of his holy spirit, reveals through the scriptures that Jesus is anointed [made christ, the anointed one] by Yahweh, the unipersonal God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Jesus is not Yahweh who anoints him. — Psalm 2:2; 45:7; Isaiah 61:1; Acts 2:36; 4:27; 10:38.
The Messiah is not the son of three persons, but he is the son of one person, the only true God who sent him. (John 17:3) In the expression "the son of God," the word "God" designates one person, not three persons. -- Matthew 14:33; 26:63; 27:43,54; Mark 1:1; 15:39; Luke 1:35; 4:41; 22:70; John 1:34,49; 3:18; 9:35; 10:36; 11:14,27; 20:31; Acts 9:20; Romans 1:4; Galatians 2:20; Ephesians 4:13; Hebrews 4:14; 6:6; 7:3; 10:20; 1 John 3:8; 4:15; 5:5,10,12,13,20; Revelation 2:18.
God's holy spirit, figuratively mouth, ears, hand, and finger, is the holy spirit of the three persons, but one person. Expressions like the "spirit of God" designates elohim as one person, not three persons. Those who claim that elohim means three persons would have this to mean "spirit of three persons" and at the same time claim that the spirit is one of the three persons, evidently without noticing the contradiction. -- Genesis 1:2; 41:38; Exodus 31:3; 35:31; Numbers 24:2; 1 Samuel 10:10; 11:6; 19:20; 2 Chronicles 15:1; 2 Chronicles 24:20; Job 26:13; Ezekiel 11:24; Matthew 3:16; 12:28; Romans 8:9,14,11; 15:19; 1 Corinthians 2:11,14; 3:16; 6:11; 7:40; 12:3; Ephesians 3:16; 4:30; 1 John 4:2,13.
Expressions such as "spirit of Yahweh" depict "Yahweh", the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Exodus 3:14,15) -- not as three persons -- but one person, and His spirit as belonging to Him unipersonally. -- Genesis 6:3; Numbers 11:29; Judges 3:10; 6:34; 11:29; 13:25; 14:6,19; 15:14; 1 Samuel 10:26; 16:13,14; 2 Samuel 23:2; 1 Kings 18:12; 22:24; 2 Kings 2:16; 18:23; 20:14; Isaiah 11:2; 40:13; 42:1; 44:3; 48:16; 59:21; 63:14; Ezekiel 11:5; 36:27; 37:1,14; 39:29; Joel 2:28,29; Micah 2:7,8; Haggai 2:5; Zechariah 4:6; 7:12; Matthew 12:18; Luke 4:18; Acts 2:17,18; 5:9; 2 Corinthians 3:17.
The expression "son of the Most High ("Highest" in many translations)" designates the "Most High" as one person in contrast with the son. -- Mark 5:7; Luke 1:32 (see Luke 1:35); 8:28.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, by means of his holy spirit, reveals through the scriptures that Jesus is son of the unipersonal Most High, Yahweh. Jesus is never spoken of as the “Most High”; Jesus is not the only Most High Yahweh of whom he is the son. — Genesis 14:22; Psalm 7:17; 83:18; 92:1; Luke 1:32; John 13:16.
No scripture says that Jesus was God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, although possessing the mighty power of Yahweh as did Moses, he could be referred to as God (ELOHIM, THEOS) in a manner similar to Moses. (Exodus 7:1; Deuteronomy 18:15,18; Acts 3:18-22) Neither in the case of Moses nor Jesus does this make either of them into God Almighty who gives them their power and authority.
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Since the idea of the trinity is contrary to the basis of the atonement as presented in the Bible, the trinity doctrine should be discarded by all who wish to know the only true God and the one sent by the only true God.