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Old 06-11-2009   #1
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Leading UN Abortion Advocate Works for Pontifical Catholic University.

This is old news, [from 2006] but shows even more evidence of the CATHOLIC SMOKESCREEN regarding abortion. Remember Rome and the Pope pushes the UN every chance they get. The UN is one of the most death promoting organizations in the world. Sure they SPEAK a LOT OF WORDS against abortion and push out billows of SMOKE, for the smokescreen, but this is just another example of what they really are up to.

From website "Heavy-handed politics"
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Leading United Nations Abortion Advocate a Prof at a Pontifical Catholic University

The United Nations pushes abortion rights. In an article by John-Henry Westen, he writes in his first paragraph (for LifeSiteNews.com) that "Silvia Pimentel, has distinguished herself as one of the leading promoters of abortion on the United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW). Elected to sit on the committee in January 2005 and currently serving as Vice Chair, Pimentel is one of the 23 'experts' on the UN body which monitors compliance with the UN convention of the same name."

Emphasis is mine. See the connection? "Eliminate discrimination of women and abortion." Get it? If you do, please let me know.


"While it may not be surprising that a CEDAW committee member encourages countries to permit abortion, even though abortion does not fall within the UN committee's mandate, the fact that Pimentel is a Professor of Legal Philosophy at the Pontifical Catholic University of Sao Paulo is raising eyebrows."
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"In the most recent round of CEDAW committee meetings which ended last week, the UN body took up compliance reports and made recommendations on eight countries. During the meetings concerning Togo and Thailand, Pimentel promoted abortion."

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These INCONSISTENCIES KEEP CROPPING UP DO THEY NOT?

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This is old news, [from 2006] but shows even more evidence of the CATHOLIC SMOKESCREEN regarding abortion. Remember Rome and the Pope pushes the UN every chance they get. The UN is one of the most death promoting organizations in the world. Sure they SPEAK a LOT OF WORDS against abortion and push out billows of SMOKE, for the smokescreen, but this is just another example of what they really are up to.

From website "Heavy-handed politics"


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Looks like she is still there, google her name: and you will see what I mean...

http://www.awid.org/eng/Issues-and-A...nguage)/eng-GB

These INCONSISTENCIES KEEP CROPPING UP DO THEY NOT?

SAY ONE THING DO ANOTHER!
From wikipedia:
The Pontifícia Universidade Católica de São Paulo (Pontifical Catholic University of São Paulo, PUC-SP) is a private and non-profit Catholic university. It is one of the largest and most prestigious Brazilian universities. It is maintained by the Catholic Archdiocese of São Paulo.

PUC-SP was the first Brazilian university to elect the rector and other administrative functions by direct vote from the students and teachers. Founded by the archbishop of São Paulo, Carlos Carmelo Vasconcellos Cardinal Motta as the "Catholic University of São Paulo", the university received the title of "Pontifical Catholic University" in 1947, by the Pope Pius XII.
So once again, we have an example of a private Catholic University ignoring the hierarchy and seeking to improve its image in the world by hiring a well-regarded professor despite that professor's activism in promoting abortion. Very troubling and sad.

Consider the scriptures (from Psalm 37):
1 Do not be provoked by evildoers; do not envy those who do wrong.
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Like grass they wither quickly; like green plants they wilt away.
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2 Trust in the LORD and do good that you may dwell in the land and live secure.
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Find your delight in the LORD who will give you your heart's desire.
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Commit your way to the LORD; trust that God will act
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And make your integrity shine like the dawn, your vindication like noonday.
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Be still before the LORD; wait for God. Do not be provoked by the prosperous, nor by malicious schemers.
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Give up your anger, abandon your wrath; do not be provoked; it brings only harm.
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So once again, we have an example of a private Catholic University ignoring the hierarchy and seeking to improve its image in the world by hiring a well-regarded professor despite that professor's activism in promoting abortion. Very troubling and sad.
And AGAIN, nothing meaningful is EVER DONE, but moaning and wringing of hands.

IF the clerics in that "Private University" were to marry WOMEN, and stop chasing boys, they would be DEFROCKED immediately.

But when they are aiding and abetting the murder of the unborn, AMAZINGLY the Vatican is unable to do anything? Why is it still a "Catholic University?" If they wanted to, they could ORDER all clerics to quit, or be defrocked, AND they could remove any affiliation with the RCC immediately.

The FACT, that they NEVER DO, is implicit that they really don't have any problems with abortions, and EVERYTHING they say, is just for show.


YOU may be that dumb, please don't thing WE are.
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And AGAIN, nothing meaningful is EVER DONE, but moaning and wringing of hands.

IF the clerics in that "Private University" were to marry WOMEN, and stop chasing boys, they would be DEFROCKED immediately.

But when they are aiding and abetting the murder of the unborn, AMAZINGLY the Vatican is unable to do anything? Why is it still a "Catholic University?" If they wanted to, they could ORDER all clerics to quit, or be defrocked, AND they could remove any affiliation with the RCC immediately.

The FACT, that they NEVER DO, is implicit that they really don't have any problems with abortions, and EVERYTHING they say, is just for show.


YOU may be that dumb, please don't thing WE are.
Yes somehow Mike thinks we are DUMB enough to think that a Catholic PONTIFICIAL university {that means they are UNDER DIRECT VATICAN OVERSIGHT] is HELPLESS to remove a PRO-ABORT professor, when we know for a fact, if one of the clerical professors got married, theyd be out the next day. Somehow we are supposed to think HER INTERNATIONAL WORK on BEHALF OF ADVANCING ABORTION for the UNITED NATIONS, was NOT KNOWN BY THOSE WHO HIRED HER.

GIVE ME A BREAK!
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This is old news, [from 2006] but shows even more evidence of the CATHOLIC SMOKESCREEN regarding abortion. Remember Rome and the Pope pushes the UN every chance they get. The UN is one of the most death promoting organizations in the world. Sure they SPEAK a LOT OF WORDS against abortion and push out billows of SMOKE, for the smokescreen, but this is just another example of what they really are up to.

From website "Heavy-handed politics"


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http://www.awid.org/eng/Issues-and-Analysis/Library/An-Interview-with-Silvia-Pimentel/(language)/eng-GB

These INCONSISTENCIES KEEP CROPPING UP DO THEY NOT?

SAY ONE THING DO ANOTHER!
Really, so if happened to find a Catholic teaching at a Evangelical Bible College, would that be evidence of a major smokescreen that evangelicals are secretly Catholic?

Or does that happen to mean a pro-abortion woman teaches at a Catholic College? Does she represent the Pontifical University on these boards or is she there as a representative of Brazil?

It is obvious you keep screaming "smokescreen" for no other reason than to scandalize the Catholic Church. Unable to address Catholic theology, you will attack Catholics and concoct strawmen to either support or knock down.

Sad, actually.
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And AGAIN, nothing meaningful is EVER DONE, but moaning and wringing of hands.
The only moaning and hand-wringing here is by the Attilamite clan. Yet, I don't see the clan ever doing anything about it.

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IF the clerics in that "Private University" were to marry WOMEN, and stop chasing boys, they would be DEFROCKED immediately.
Actually, they would not, they would be subject to a canonical process.

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But when they are aiding and abetting the murder of the unborn, AMAZINGLY the Vatican is unable to do anything? Why is it still a "Catholic University?" If they wanted to, they could ORDER all clerics to quit, or be defrocked, AND they could remove any affiliation with the RCC immediately.
I certainly would like to see action taken in cases like this.

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The FACT, that they NEVER DO, is implicit that they really don't have any problems with abortions, and EVERYTHING they say, is just for show.
Did someone use the word "delusional" recently?
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Yes somehow Mike thinks we are DUMB enough to think that a Catholic PONTIFICIAL university {that means they are UNDER DIRECT VATICAN OVERSIGHT] is HELPLESS to remove a PRO-ABORT professor, when we know for a fact, if one of the clerical professors got married, theyd be out the next day. Somehow we are supposed to think HER INTERNATIONAL WORK on BEHALF OF ADVANCING ABORTION for the UNITED NATIONS, was NOT KNOWN BY THOSE WHO HIRED HER.

GIVE ME A BREAK!
Tell you what Sally, once you get your ministers off the Planned Parenthood chaplaincy and get your faith communities to teaching that abortion is morally acceptable, then maybe you can start pointing out the dissident Catholics.
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Really, so if happened to find a Catholic teaching at a Evangelical Bible College, would that be evidence of a major smokescreen that evangelicals are secretly Catholic?
If they were making religious decisions, yes.

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Does PONTIFICAL mean what THEY Say it means? Under the DIRECT CONTROL OF THE VATICAN itself?

If so, you need to ask yourself, WHO is running your ship, fools or scheming liars.
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The only moaning and hand-wringing here is by the Attilamite clan. Yet, I don't see the clan ever doing anything about it.
I did.

I ACTED on that knowledge, left, stopped sending them my money, repented, got saved, then adult baptized.

And I labor daily in the field, trying to wake the Tares up from their slumbering naivety.

THAT is called action, Mikey.
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I did.

I ACTED on that knowledge, left, stopped sending them my money, repented, got saved, then adult baptized.

And I labor daily in the field, trying to wake the Tares up from their slumbering naivety.

THAT is called action, Mikey.
Ahhh - you don't belong to ANY faith community, I see, and even baptized yourself.
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If they were making religious decisions, yes.
Then it is a good thing she is not making religious decisions for the University, she teaches "Philosophy of Law".

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Does PONTIFICAL mean what THEY Say it means? Under the DIRECT CONTROL OF THE VATICAN itself?

If so, you need to ask yourself, WHO is running your ship, fools or scheming liars.
Is the woman teaching Theology? is she a religious? No, she is merely a professor at a Catholic University. Evidence of a horrible pro-abortion smokescreen? No, one professor at one university who does not even hold an administrative position is pro-abortion. That makes her the hypocrite not the school.

I can't help but notice, by looking at her credentials, she was demoted from being "General Director of the Juridical, Economics and Administrative Sciences Centre" to teaching an Intro to Law course in 1984 and has held no administrative positions in the last 25 years. Could that have been due to her position on abortion? Wait, I thought the RCC was PRO abortion?

Of course it is not, and her career was dead-ended due to her views.

But none of that gets mentioned in the OP
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Then it is a good thing she is not making religious decisions for the University, she teaches "Philosophy of Law".
As in the MORAL RIGHT UNDER LAW, to abortions?
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As in the MORAL RIGHT UNDER LAW, to abortions?
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Then it is a good thing she is not making religious decisions for the University, she teaches "Philosophy of Law".



Is the woman teaching Theology? is she a religious? No, she is merely a professor at a Catholic University. Evidence of a horrible pro-abortion smokescreen? No, one professor at one university who does not even hold an administrative position is pro-abortion. That makes her the hypocrite not the school.

I can't help but notice, by looking at her credentials, she was demoted from being "General Director of the Juridical, Economics and Administrative Sciences Centre" to teaching an Intro to Law course in 1984 and has held no administrative positions in the last 25 years. Could that have been due to her position on abortion? Wait, I thought the RCC was PRO abortion?

Of course it is not, and her career was dead-ended due to her views.

But none of that gets mentioned in the OP

So SHOULD A PONTIFICAL UNIVERSITY HIRE AN ABORTIONIST to TEACH IT'S YOUNG ADULTS? {More VAIN PHILOSOPHY from Rome}

I mean afterall, she is helping the UN to Spread ABORTION WORLDWIDE< that is pretty equal to being an out and out abortionist.

Many professors especially ones involved in international endeavors, decrease the workload and go on semi-retirement, you didnt prove she was demoted at all. I guess you are pretty desperate to play CYA on this one.
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So SHOULD A PONTIFICAL UNIVERSITY HIRE AN ABORTIONIST to TEACH IT'S YOUNG ADULTS? {More VAIN PHILOSOPHY from Rome}

I mean afterall, she is helping the UN to Spread ABORTION WORLDWIDE< that is pretty equal to being an out and out abortionist.

Many professors especially ones involved in international endeavors, decrease the workload and go on semi-retirement, you didnt prove she was demoted at all. I guess you are pretty desperate to play CYA on this one.
To go from moving up the ladder in the administration, to going back to being a professor and teaching "intro" classes. Is a pretty safe bet she did not just take a sabbatical.

On this commission, does she represent the University? Yes or No?

Does she represent the Vatican? Yes or No?

Do you know for a fact she was not demoted and only went on semi-retirement? Yes or No?

Or are you desperate to pin SOMETHING on the RCC to support you smokescreen theory that you will bite at anything?
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To go from moving up the ladder in the administration, to going back to being a professor and teaching "intro" classes. Is a pretty safe bet she did not just take a sabbatical.

On this commission, does she represent the University? Yes or No?

Does she represent the Vatican? Yes or No?

Do you know for a fact she was not demoted and only went on semi-retirement? Yes or No?

Or are you desperate to pin SOMETHING on the RCC to support you smokescreen theory that you will bite at anything?
So ANYONE can work at a PONTIFICAL university?

and you don't care what they are into?

Its sickening how you all will excuse anything.

You didnt even have the conscience to say something along the lines of I am concerning this pro-abortion person is teaching young adults.

You just do not care.
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So ANYONE can work at a PONTIFICAL university?

and you don't care what they are into?

Its sickening how you all will excuse anything.

You didnt even have the conscience to say something along the lines of I am concerning this pro-abortion person is teaching young adults.

You just do not care.
Sure I have concerns, and no she should not be teaching there. But your point in posting this was not to get me to say that, and you know it.

But does her teaching there prove some kind of nefarious smokescreen on the behalf of the Vatican?

Not hardly.
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Sure I have concerns, and no she should not be teaching there. But your point in posting this was not to get me to say that, and you know it.
Wow how many posts did that take?

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As in the MORAL RIGHT UNDER LAW, to abortions?
I don't know, but then again, neither do you.
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