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Old 11-01-2008   #1
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Vatican Support for the NWO: Antichrist Economic System

The Global elites are working now on putting together a world economic system, [this could even lead to a global currency]


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At a meeting with President Bush at a Camp David retreat last weekend, European Union Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said, "We need a new global financial order" ("Bush Will Host World Leaders," AP, Oct. 18, 2008). After meeting with Barroso and French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Bush announced that he will host an international summit to seek ways to fix the world financial system. Some want to explore the possibility of creating a world currency. Since October 9, the stock market has lost more than $8 trillion, and one worlders see this as an opportunity to push the nations toward further globalism.
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Holy See: Real Crisis About More Than Money
Points to Lack of Ethics and Moral Codes

NEW YORK, OCT. 31, 2008 (Zenit.org).- The current global financial crisis goes beyond bad economic practices to the realm of ethics and moral codes, says the Holy See representative at the United Nations.

Archbishop Celestino Migliore, permanent observer of the Holy See to the United Nations, said Thursday before the U.N. General Assembly that the Holy See agrees that the crisis "can be attributed to a lack of a complete and effective regulatory system."

But the archbishop said the situation was also created by "widespread disregard for regulatory and supervisory structures, to say nothing of the rules of accountability and transparency."

"The real crisis does not appear to be merely financial, economic and technical," he continued. "Rather, it extends to the broader realm of ethical codes and moral conduct.

"Unbridled profiteering and the unscrupulous pursuit of gain at any cost have made people forget basic rules of business ethics."

To that end, Archbishop Migliore said the proper response to the crisis should "not be limited to deploring the crisis and offering formal expressions of sympathy," but rather to "come up with the ways and means to avoid similar crises in the future."

Subsidiarity

"Governments and institutions which rigorously implemented rules at the lower customer level were lax in maintaining that same rigor at the higher level," the Holy See representative lamented. "The same could also be said with regard to the economic systems of poorer countries.

"International financial institutions which strictly implemented conditionalities and oversight in developing countries neglected to do so when overseeing developed economies. Now that the latter have collapsed, the former also have to bear the consequences."

"Government is the exercise of the virtue of prudence in the enactment of legislative and executive measures capable of directing social activity toward the common good," explained Archbishop Migliore.

"The principle of subsidiarity," he added, "requires that governments and large international agencies ensure solidarity on the national and global levels and between generations."

Responsibility

The Holy See representative offered a second observation regarding the responsibilities of lending institutions.

"Lending is a necessary social activity," the archbishop began. "Nonetheless, financial institutions and agents are responsible for ensuring that lending fulfils its proper function in society, connecting savings to production.

"If lending is seen merely in terms of trading off financial resources without regard for their reasonable use, it fails to be a service to society. When attempts are made to conceal the real risk that loans will not be repaid, savers are cheated and lenders become actual accomplices in theft."

Archbishop Migliore continued: "It must not be forgotten that at the edges of the financial system there are retired persons, small family businesses, cottage industries and countless employees for whom savings are an essential means of support.

"Financial activity needs to be sufficiently transparent so that individual savers, especially the poor and those least protected, understand what will become of their savings.

"This calls not only for effective measures of oversight by governments, but also for a high standard of ethical conduct on the part of financial leaders themselves."

Lifestyle

The archbishop also encouraged the general public to make more responsible economic choices: "A lifestyle, and even more an economic model, solely based on increased and uncontrolled consumption and not on savings and the creation of productive capital, is economically unsustainable.

"It also becomes unsustainable from the standpoint of concern for the environment and, above all, of human dignity itself, since the irresponsible consumer renounces his own dignity as a rational creature and also offends the dignity of others."

In his closing comments, Arcbishop Migliore called for credible and authentic lending, and urged governments to "invest in people."

"Once the inevitable financial salvage operations are over, governments and the international community should invest their money in aid to the poorest populations," he said.
The archbishop added: "The history of developed countries also demonstrates that grants for health, education, housing and other basic services benefiting the weakest socio-economic levels of society, families and small communities, ultimately prove to be the most profitable investments, since they alone ensure the harmonious functioning of society as a whole."
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The Vatican= Workers for the antichrist, and supporters of the world "beast" system.
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Salley345 you have gone off the deep end...again. What exactly did the Archbishop say that is wrong?
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The Global elites are working now on putting together a world economic system, [this could even lead to a global currency]




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The Vatican= Workers for the antichrist, and supporters of the world "beast" system.
The title line of this post belong's on the National Enquirer........are you auditioning, or maybe as a new Jack Chick writer?
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Salley345 you have gone off the deep end...again. What exactly did the Archbishop say that is wrong?

I am not surprised the Catholics here are against America's soverignity and having the world wide economic market put under the authority of the United Nations or other global elite organization.

For any of them are Americans they must have flunked history class, desiring that outside authorities who are not duly elected leaders, REGULATE the economy.

The Vatican is an enemy of America, it hates freedom. It wants America suppressed under global authorities.

I guess you two are for a world currency arent you?
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I am not surprised the Catholics here are against America's soverignity and having the world wide economic market put under the authority of the United Nations or other global elite organization.

For any of them are Americans they must have flunked history class, desiring that outside authorities who are not duly elected leaders, REGULATE the economy.

The Vatican is an enemy of America, it hates freedom. It wants America suppressed under global authorities.

I guess you two are for a world currency arent you?
I understand you now. You a conspiracy nut.
Please tell me that you don't believe that the Jews and the Vatican were behind 9-11.
I grew up in the 60's. Back then people like you were saying the the Vatican was building an underground tunnel to the White House so that they could tell the new Catholic President Kennedy what to do. I guess you believe that one too.
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I understand you now. You a conspiracy nut.
Please tell me that you don't believe that the Jews and the Vatican were behind 9-11.
I grew up in the 60's. Back then people like you were saying the the Vatican was building an underground tunnel to the White House so that they could tell the new Catholic President Kennedy what to do. I guess you believe that one too.
I dont play "blame the Jews", I am actually pro-Israel--as Bible says anyone who blesses Jewish people are blessed etc..., leave that for the disinformationists. There are some anti-semite Trad Catholics here, the old school types who hold to Rome's true view of the Jewish people. Evil is for every group, but the Vatican is playing its NWO role to the hilt.

Kennedy didnt last too long because he had a conscience.

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"Conspiracy nuts" have warned for 25 years there would be a one world economic system or global overseer over the world economy, now that this is being arranged "officially" who are the nuts? or better question who are the blind sheeple?

Well the Bible warns of all of this, it is just fulfilment of Bible prophecy, but Catholics dont believe in BIble prophecy.
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"Conspiracy nuts" have warned for 25 years there would be a one world economic system or global overseer over the world economy, now that this is being arranged "officially" who are the nuts? or better question who are the blind sheeple?

Well the Bible warns of all of this, it is just fulfilment of Bible prophecy, but Catholics dont believe in BIble prophecy.
Anti catholics are the LEAST credible people on the planet when it comes to Bible prophecy.
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"Conspiracy nuts" have warned for 25 years there would be a one world economic system or global overseer over the world economy, now that this is being arranged "officially" who are the nuts? or better question who are the blind sheeple?

Well the Bible warns of all of this, it is just fulfilment of Bible prophecy, but Catholics dont believe in BIble prophecy.
Nuts like who? Hal Lindsey your evangelical hero, the so-called prophecy expert. Did you ever read his book, The Late Great Planet Earth" written in 1970? What nonsense and he was the expert.
He made a lot of money. He of course predicted, base on the book of Revelation, that the tribulation would begin in 1988, Israel would be attacked by Russia, Egypt, East Germany ( which no longer exists). Of course the anti-christ was the Catholic Church.

And of course folks like you would be raptured before the tribulation!

Gee... what happenned? Please sally don't tell me that you believe in the rapture myth.
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Nuts like who? Hal Lindsey your evangelical hero, the so-called prophecy expert. Did you ever read his book, The Late Great Planet Earth" written in 1970? What nonsense and he was the expert.
He made a lot of money. He of course predicted, base on the book of Revelation, that the tribulation would begin in 1988, Israel would be attacked by Russia, Egypt, East Germany ( which no longer exists). Of course the anti-christ was the Catholic Church.

And of course folks like you would be raptured before the tribulation!

Gee... what happenned? Please sally don't tell me that you believe in the rapture myth.
Hal Lindsey being only a man wasnt perfect but funny all this has happened and still, supposely the world is supposed to go as it always has according to Catholic apologists....


Just as the Bible promised. . .

.... we see the one world economic system becoming a reality

....we see the one world religion coming into being


. . . we see the world's problems getting bigger and the resources, courage and leadership to deal with them fading away.

. . . Israel is a nation again, in the original Holy Land, hated by hostile neighbors, and about to be betrayed and split in half.

. . . Worldwide current events revolving around Jerusalem.

. . . The antiChrist religion is just waiting for it's Mahdi to appear.

. . . Everything i is well underway for worldwide government, religion and economy.

. . . China *TODAY* could field a 200M man army.

. . . Strange alliances predicted in the Bible are emerging, especially Russian and Iran.

. . . War in the Middle East is looking more ominous by the day.

. . . The nations of the world are more polarized and belligerent than ever.

and supposely TGLPE got it all wrong?



Looks like Catholic apologists here are working hard to fulfill this verse:

2 Peter 3:3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
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Anti catholics are the LEAST credible people on the planet when it comes to Bible prophecy.
So seeker are you are preterist or amillenialist?

You think the new world order economic system run by the UN or other globalist agency, will bring glorious times to the world?

Catholics don't really believe in Bible Prophecy. Sure they say Jesus is coming back, but then toss out every item that is supposed to happen before he does, how does that make sense, to believe the last chapter in Revelation will happen and none of the others. Allegorized into nothingness!
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The Global elites are working now on putting together a world economic system, [this could even lead to a global currency]




Guess who is there in full support of the United Nations or other global "authorities" running the world's financial system.



The Vatican= Workers for the antichrist, and supporters of the world "beast" system.
This is funny b/c it comes from the prots, who push and fund the building of the thrid temple of the blaspheming jews. The you tell Catholics that they are in the wrong. lol. Please read your Bible.
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The underlings of the RCC have no idea, who they are supporting.

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Archbishop Celestino Migliore, permanent observer of the Holy See to the United Nations, said Thursday before the U.N. General Assembly that the Holy See agrees that the crisis "can be attributed to a lack of a complete and effective regulatory system."


Guess who is there in full support of the United Nations or other global "authorities" running the world's financial system.



The Vatican= Workers for the antichrist, and supporters of the world "beast" system.


I hope that some of them will wake up,
when it becomes more clear
that the Vatican is involved in the new financial system.
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I hope that some of them will wake up,
when it becomes more clear
that the Vatican is involved in the new financial system.
Last I looked almost all world leaders were NOT CATHOLIC. You prots elect your prot politicians then blame Catholics for the state of the world.
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Last I looked almost all world leaders were NOT CATHOLIC. You prots elect your prot politicians then blame Catholics for the state of the world.
Have you ever considered that God could be fed up with your idolatry?
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Last I looked almost all world leaders were NOT CATHOLIC. You prots elect your prot politicians then blame Catholics for the state of the world.
How many world leaders are fundamentalist Christians?

{Remember Bush is UNITED METHODIST, one of the most liberal mainline churches out there}
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I hope that some of them will wake up,
when it becomes more clear
that the Vatican is involved in the new financial system.
Obviously even with it now being reported in the mainstream news they are working on a global economic system of oversight, the spiritual blindness keeps them from even admitting it is happening!
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This is funny b/c it comes from the prots, who push and fund the building of the thrid temple of the blaspheming jews. The you tell Catholics that they are in the wrong. lol. Please read your Bible.
Why would born again Christians support the building of the temple for the antichrist to use?

You dont much about the beliefs of born again Christians do you?
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The Global elites are working now on putting together a world economic system, [this could even lead to a global currency]

Guess who is there in full support of the United Nations or other global "authorities" running the world's financial system.

The Vatican= Workers for the antichrist, and supporters of the world "beast" system.
There goes silly again! RONFLMHO!!!!
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Nuts like who? Hal Lindsey your evangelical hero, the so-called prophecy expert. Did you ever read his book, The Late Great Planet Earth" written in 1970? What nonsense and he was the expert.
He made a lot of money. He of course predicted, base on the book of Revelation, that the tribulation would begin in 1988, Israel would be attacked by Russia, Egypt, East Germany ( which no longer exists). Of course the anti-christ was the Catholic Church.

And of course folks like you would be raptured before the tribulation!

Gee... what happenned? Please sally don't tell me that you believe in the rapture myth.
I remember getting mixed up with that crowd in the 80's and they are truly deranged and they tend to get MORE deranged as their various end of the world prophecy scenarios fail to work out. I think it will likely happen again when the next pope takes power as there is some non biblical prophecy out there which supposedly names the next pope as being the last pope, meaning (in the anti catholic mind) that he will HAVE to be the anti christ or the false prophet.

The other side of the coin is that RCC kind of leaves themselves open to this kind of stuff because they don't teach anything about Revelation themselves, leaving it in the hands of anti catholics to use prophecy to slander RCC.

The best way for RCC to fight these accusations might be to teach a sane, adult version of Bible prophecy.
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