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    On earth as it is in heaven

    Why does the Jesus ask us to pray that God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven if the Lord's will is already being done on earth as it is in heaven?
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    Yet, Compatibilists argue that a moral choice is...

    Yet, Compatibilists argue that a moral choice is 'free' in that the person is "doing what he desires." I'm saying that is NOT a significant enough of a criteria on which to call a choice FREE,...
  3. So, we should belittle and mock those who...

    So, we should belittle and mock those who interpret the bible differently than we do? We all believe we are "standing up for the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ," but of course that is why we have a...
  4. I didn't think I would need to cite a commonly...

    I didn't think I would need to cite a commonly known fact. Even Calvinistic scholars acknowledge that their soteriological views are not the most popular...in fact some pride themselves on that. If...
  5. Unsupported? Do you mean like this accusation? I...

    Unsupported? Do you mean like this accusation? I can point you to NUMEROUS posts where I reference notable scholars (many of which guys like Theo mock by saying something like, "Who cares what...
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    You argued that following the law (which to me...

    You argued that following the law (which to me seems consistent with NOT BREAKING ANY LAWS) would result in one being viewed 'righteous,' so I'm not sure how pointing to those who have NEVER BROKEN A...
  7. As I've stated before, the popularity of a...

    As I've stated before, the popularity of a particular view certainly doesn't validate it. I only point to it because you are treating me as if I'm not qualified to teach Theology on the basis that I...
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    Hatred is used in the original language to...

    Hatred is used in the original language to connote the choice of one over another (i.e. as in 'hate your mother and father'). In the OT it is used to indicate the 'wrath' or 'condemnation' sinful...
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    I affirmed that already, remember. We are...

    I affirmed that already, remember. We are debating the WHY. Is it "Unable to be willing" or just plain ol "unable to complete the action."

    Either way, the point that God won't be lying is agreed...
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    So aborted unborn babies are righteous since they...

    So aborted unborn babies are righteous since they didn't disobey God's laws? They get in on the basis of their own righteousness, not the righteousness of Christ? Christ is NOT the only way?

    I'm...
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    Jesus is the Lamb. I'm not sure what this has to...

    Jesus is the Lamb. I'm not sure what this has to do with the teachings and actions of Jesus regarding his love for his enemies?
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    As I said in the very quote you you replied too,...

    As I said in the very quote you you replied too, "He might rebuke, but even then He "speaks truth in love." Do you disagree that Jesus would follow his own teachings and 'speak truth in love?' He...
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    Could be, but do you know of any Calvinists who...

    Could be, but do you know of any Calvinists who don't interpret Rom. 9's "jacob I've loved, but Esau I hated," as a proof of individual election and reprobation? I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm...
  14. What's illogical about it? It makes perfect...

    What's illogical about it? It makes perfect sense for someone who offends a great person to be more severely punished than someone who offends an idiot. What is 'emotive' about that judicial...
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    Yeah, you're probably right. It was just as...

    Yeah, you're probably right. It was just as likely for the scriptures to say of Jesus, "Then Jesus beholding him hated him, because he was born his enemy." or "And Jesus went throughout all the...
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    Right...is God really the "do as I say not as I...

    Right...is God really the "do as I say not as I do" kind of God? I don't believe so. Christ didn't represent God like that anyway. Good verse! He loved him even though he walked away.
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    True! I agree totally with this. But isn't the...

    True! I agree totally with this. But isn't the Calvinistic idea of God hating all the non-elect since before they were born inconsistent with the teaching to 'love your enemies?"
  18. Oh, so you agree with my view...you are just...

    Oh, so you agree with my view...you are just saying one illogical inconsistency deserves another?

    Well, we disagree about what you have deemed 'illogical' regarding eternal punishment and sin. ...
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    Another point on this subject... According to...

    Another point on this subject...

    According to scripture what is the origin of our love for God? "He who is forgiven much, loves much." Forgiveness fosters love. The love of God doesn't really...
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    You still haven't see my point obviously because...

    You still haven't see my point obviously because of all the mysteries my system affords, this aint one of them. Trust me...I've read a ton of much, much smarter men than me on the subject from both...
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    No, I'm not falling in line with the straw man...

    No, I'm not falling in line with the straw man you two have erected. If my argument was that someone can't change after they made a choice then you might have a point. But we too believe in the...
  22. You get too caught up in the details of the...

    You get too caught up in the details of the analogy...its just an illustration. The point is that sin is so heinously bad not because of the nature of offense (little white lie), but because of the...
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    Because you can't earn grace and grace is the...

    Because you can't earn grace and grace is the only way. Even unborn babies who die or the mentally handicapped who are born brain dead never break any of God's rules. But is that enough to earn...
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    Sigh. When I start believing that definition...

    Sigh.

    When I start believing that definition of love (i.e. you have to be able to ALWAYS and forever have the option to stop loving in order for it to be love) then I'll defend this against this...
  25. I'm not the one challenging the most obviously...

    I'm not the one challenging the most obviously stated and orthodox views regarding eternal punishment presented in the scriptures...most held to by both Calvinistic and Arminian and Southern Baptist...
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