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    Jesus and God are referred to as MAN, or at least...

    Jesus and God are referred to as MAN, or at least in the masculine. I remember your discussion of Jesus as man and mediator... I can see your point there.
    One thing which is bogus is using the fact...
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    Boy you are going to talked about like...

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    Boy you are going to talked about like a real lowlife pretty soon, we don't want that for you. Maybe you should go ahead and deal with what is put to you.
    Here , I'll paste it for you to...
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    We agree that it is a catching up to meet the...

    We agree that it is a catching up to meet the Lord in the air.

    You feel it doesn't say we remain with the lord in the air forever. So where will we remain and why? Where are the caught up ..caught...
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    I had to look up 'fungibility'! If you are asking...

    I had to look up 'fungibility'! If you are asking me to describe heaven I'm going to have to pass even tho I had an NDE and was almost there!

    1 Thess 4:17 is this:

    17 After that, we who are...
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    It is also a problem when the very few verses...

    It is also a problem when the very few verses used are interpreted incorrectly.

    I have been looking at this life in the blood thing and it is something I have ignored... perhaps I ignored it...
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    Depends what the 'oceans of the Lord' is! ...

    Depends what the 'oceans of the Lord' is!

    Jesus went back to heaven, last I heard.

    Jesus will remain in heaven forever as well, 1 Thess 4:17.

    noble
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    That would be 100% civic logic. Jesus was a...

    That would be 100% civic logic.

    Jesus was a spirit, Jesus became flesh to live among man, Jesus became a spirit again to live in heaven again.
    1 cor 15:45

    45 So it is written: “The first man...
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    I don' know exactly, but don't they resist blood...

    I don' know exactly, but don't they resist blood transfusions because of the life in the blood issue?

    Anyhow you have a super point!

    noble
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    [QUOTE=Beloved;6094686] I don't hold to the...

    I don't hold to the fact that Jesus 'BODY' was resurrected. Jesus was but I don't see His earthly body being needed anymore.

    Yes the tomb was empty and yes 500 people saw Jesus.. but Jesus was...
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    I find it difficult to unravel what you meaning...

    I find it difficult to unravel what you meaning in your posts. Sorry.

    Jesus gave the sacrifice to cover off the sin of Adam. Adam lost eternal life in heaven after earthly life for us and Jesus...
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    Put nicely and verified in 2 COR 5:1 to 4.

    Put nicely and verified in 2 COR 5:1 to 4.
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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6093654] Except Roby ,...

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    Except Roby , what do these verses say?

    Mark 13
    29 Even so, you too, when you see these things happening, recognize that He is near, right at the door. 30 Truly I say to you, this...
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    [QUOTE=Rod.ney;6091753] Rod you are so apron...

    Rod you are so apron strung to your teachers that if they ever stop leading you , you will shove your nose right into their ankle!

    1 Thess 4:15 includes women, verse 16 is the dead in Christ...
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    That is a good point! Oh but the JW say that too...

    That is a good point! Oh but the JW say that too don't they? Even a stopped clock is right twice a day!
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    Jesus died on the cross and was raised to life...

    Jesus died on the cross and was raised to life again. Jesus was NOT raised as flesh and bone because He was not flesh and bone (physical)when He entered the very room where He showed the wounds and...
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    I think there is a complete mindset cutoff in...

    I think there is a complete mindset cutoff in place alright. Each group does not understand the basics of the other group. I fear that may plague me too in some places.

    I see that we actually DO...
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    Good morning! It's a beautiful day here today...

    Good morning!

    It's a beautiful day here today and I'm up powerful early... I will get in a good day of relaxation today for sure!

    Take care in the everglades.

    noble
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    [QUOTE=Rod.ney;6094173] NO Rod the Holy...

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    NO Rod the Holy Spirit is telling me something other than what He is telling you. SO one of us is lying or else the Holy Spirit is conning one of us or .... you explain it.... why would...
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    [QUOTE=Quasar;6093869][QUOTE=noble;6093563] ...

    Good morning Quasar.

    Two personal appearances of Jesus you say.

    Let's go thru Jesus story of His PAROUSIA and see if you are following His word or not.
    Matt 24


    4 And Jesus answered and...
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    [QUOTE=Quasar;6093522][QUOTE=noble;6092787] So...

    So we have Quasar who argues that:

    1) there are two PAROUSIA
    2) 1 Thess 4:15 to 17 s rapture not resurrections
    3) 1 COR 15:23 says God know what!!!!!
    4: John 14 os rapture and it was spoken to...
  21. [QUOTE=robycop3;6088334] You don't grasp...

    You don't grasp things real well .... if you can avoid the great trib by fleeing Judea, would the bad stuff not be happening in Judea?????

    The Judean rebellion is not the great trib???? Well, I...
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    Let's try again: Mark 13 29 Even...

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    Let's try again:

    Mark 13
    29 Even so, you too, when you see these things happening, recognize that He is near, right at the door. 30 Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass...
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    Let's not go back beyond where we have progressed...

    Let's not go back beyond where we have progressed from.

    1 COR 15
    37 and that which you sow, you do not sow the body which is to be, but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of something else.
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    DO you like the 'word' became Jesus better, go...

    DO you like the 'word' became Jesus better, go ahead and use it. BUt who was it that created things again??????

    noble
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    [QUOTE=Quasar;6092729][QUOTE=noble;6092391] ...

    This is covered for the most part in the post you quoted to respond to. SO go thru what you responded to for my response. BUT read it this time.
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