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  1. You need glasses. Or reading lessons. Or to...

    You need glasses. Or reading lessons. Or to embrace that truth matters. Maybe all 3.
  2. You lack faith.... do you have a de fide dogma...

    You lack faith.... do you have a de fide dogma that Mary was 9 feet tall, had pink hair and 100 children (all red headed boys)? AH - then you don't believe God COULD create a woman who was 9 feet...
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    You weren't suppose to look up the verse.

    You weren't suppose to look up the verse.
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    Luke 1:28 says NOTHING about the conception of...

    Luke 1:28 says NOTHING about the conception of Mary or original sin. I think you KNOW this which is why you didn't quote the verse; I think you know if that if you actually quoted the verse, you'd...
  5. You implied that the loving, mutual sharing of...

    I never even implied that sex is sinful.

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    You implied that the loving, mutual sharing of marital intimates would have made Joseph unjust and unrighteous: a very, very typical...
  6. Thread: John 6: 53-57

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    IS = is. It has to do with being, existing,...

    IS = is. It has to do with being, existing, presence.

    Please quote from any dictionary where the given definition of the verb "to be" is: "Changed and/or converted from one reality to an...
  7. Your Catholic view of marital intimacy is...

    Your Catholic view of marital intimacy is disgusting. No..... the loving, mutual sharing of intimacy in marriage is not a horrible sin that makes one unjust and unrighteous..... News flash: God...
  8. Thread: John 6: 53-57

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    Transubstantiation is absent in John 6 and all of...

    Transubstantiation is absent in John 6 and all of Scripture. The words "change" "convert" "alchemy" "transubstantiation" "accident" are all ENTIRELY absent in John 6. Not a word about any of them....
  9. Friend, would you please quote from some official...

    Friend, would you please quote from some official Methodist statement of doctrines that "Mary Had Lots of Children?" I looked at the Articles again and could not find one on that...
  10. Thread: John 6: 53-57

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    And NONE of them remotely teaches...

    And NONE of them remotely teaches Transubstantiation..... IF you had something from Scripture, I think we all know you'd quote it. You don't. We all know it.

    Any multiplication of zero is...
  11. And NOT, "..... this has changed and/or converted...

    And NOT, "..... this has changed and/or converted from one reality into a foreign reality via the precise, technical, physical mechanism of an alchemic Transubstantiation leaving behind an...
  12. Can you follow the RCC thinking here? The RC...

    Can you follow the RCC thinking here?

    The RC Denomination (uniquely, singularly, individually) CANNOT err (in formal doctrine, AT LEAST). So claims the RCC itself for it itself individually,...
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    Evidently, you didn't read what you quoted from...

    According to the dictionary, alchemy is not "transubstantiation":

    alchemy |ˈalkəmē| noun
    the medieval forerunner of chemistry, based on the supposed transformation of matter. It was concerned...
  14. Thread: John 6: 53-57

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    So, a view is dogma if a GREAT MANY verses do not...

    So, a view is dogma if a GREAT MANY verses do not support it? The more verses that do NOT confirm it, the more dogmatic the view is? The more verses that do NOT teach it, the more true it is?
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    In modern Catholicism, there is no bread - at...

    In modern Catholicism, there is no bread - at least in any full and literal sense (that's an ARISTOTELIAN ACCIDENT) What now IS (after the alchemic transubstantiation) is Jesus (according to modern,...
  16. Thread: John 6: 53-57

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    And NONE of them remotely teaches...

    And NONE of them remotely teaches Transubstantiation...... IF you had something from Scripture, I think we all know you'd quote it. You don't. We all know it.
  17. Thread: John 6: 53-57

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    There's NOTHING in John 6 that remotely supports...

    There's NOTHING in John 6 that remotely supports the new, unique, Eucharistic Dogma of the RCC: Transubstantiation. Yes, I think that IF one could show that the topic of discussion is the...
  18. Good point. If the new, unique Eucharistic Dogma...

    Good point. If the new, unique Eucharistic Dogma of the RCC is true and is what "is" means, then "Houston, we've got a problem" vis-a-vis salvation because then Jesus is not BOTH true God and true...
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    In modern Catholicism, it's not bread - that's an...

    In modern Catholicism, it's not bread - that's an ARISTOTELIAN ACCIDENT.

    I think we first need to agree on what (exactly, verbatim, in black-and-white) did Jesus SAY and Paul PINNED. Do we here...
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    More Catholic double-speak. The new Catholic...

    More Catholic double-speak.

    The new Catholic Birth Control Method does one thing: Make sex non-procreative, make having sex UNLIKELY to result in conception, the whole enchilada is to make sex...
  21. The RCC has yet to agree with any. But IT ITSELF...

    Protestants have yet to agree[/quote]

    The RCC has yet to agree with any. But IT ITSELF - uniquely, solely, only, exclusively, singularly, individually - and even that is only officially,...
  22. Ah.... so Luther and Calvin did NOT support the...

    Ah.... so Luther and Calvin did NOT support the RCC's insistence: DE FIDE DOGMA - Mary Had No Sex EVER. They (at least at first) embrace a personal, pious opinion of that. You need to be...
  23. IS. He didn't say, "CHANGED and/or CONVERTED...

    IS. He didn't say, "CHANGED and/or CONVERTED from one reality to an entirely different one via the specific, physical mechanism of an alchemic Transubstantiation leaving behind an indistinguishable...
  24. I ONLY want to contribute that there are other...

    I ONLY want to contribute that there are other options than either
    1) NOTHING happens .... we MUST have a metaphor OR
    2) A specific alchemic transubstantiation happens to the wine and bread...
  25. Wrong again. Luther and Calvin did NOT...

    their opinions we can assume are based on the presupposition of their adherence to Scripture as being their sole authority. [/quote]


    Wrong again.

    Luther and Calvin did NOT present the PVM as...
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