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  1. Its easy to read anybody into Isaiah 42. But the...

    Its easy to read anybody into Isaiah 42. But the passage contains details that fit Mohammads life and islam not Jesus. For starters It makes an explicit reference towards Kedar who are synonymous...
  2. As a Muslim, I may not agree with every single...

    As a Muslim, I may not agree with every single thing you say but I will say this - Islam does teach that Jesus is an etremely unique messenge. He is the only one to have the titles "Word from God"...
  3. What dilemma? 1. You blindly assume that...

    What dilemma?

    1. You blindly assume that Jesus is God because he was "before" John the Baptist. So why didn't John just say "He is God" instead of "He was before me"????

    2. This (and the...
  4. Jesus did cause quite a ruckus in public when he...

    Jesus did cause quite a ruckus in public when he chased the money changers out of the temple.

    Jesus caused a perfectly healthy plant to whither

    Jesus was indeed discouraged and lamented about...
  5. Well, the same can be said about any place that...

    Well, the same can be said about any place that has heard about Christianty. But is Christianity really flourishing in Arabia? I think not.

    But it remains that Isaiah 42 specifically mentions a...
  6. Isaiah 42 speaks of transformation of an entire...

    Isaiah 42 speaks of transformation of an entire people, the use of warfare, a new law, the shaming of idolaters and the instilling of monotheism. These fit Mohammad not Jesus or any israelite /jewsh...
  7. @fletch the Bible is replete with verses teaching...

    @fletch the Bible is replete with verses teaching Monotheism. None of them make a difference to trins... They just read trinity into them and insist verses where an absolute One God is spoken of is...
  8. I'd probably hear something like "its actually...

    I'd probably hear something like "its actually one opinion in three forms"... or something. I'm not sure I want to go there
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    So people are still trying to define the trinity?

    So people are still trying to define the trinity?
  10. That IS a division.. You divide the Godhood of...

    That IS a division..
    You divide the Godhood of the Father with two other persons.
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    The verse is from 11:27. Its saying the elite...

    The verse is from 11:27.
    Its saying the elite during Noah's time dismissed Noah saying nobody follows him except those they saw as the lowest in their society. The word "save" used in some...
  12. Trinitarians just want to be able to say "its...

    Trinitarians just want to be able to say "its three but its one"; they have basically divided God into three persons. In the doctrine of trinity The Father (who is God) shares Godhood with two other...
  13. You are misrepresenting me. I clearly said...

    You are misrepresenting me.
    I clearly said "before Abraham, I am" doesn't make grammatical sense. In English.
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    I don't own this forum. Post.

    I don't own this forum. Post.
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    Noah's family were believers and were saved on...

    Noah's family were believers and were saved on the ark.
    I didn't fully understand your question. Are you asking me if there were others who survived the flood?IMO Its quite possible. Some say the...
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    one eyed anti-christ

    Some Christians have interpreted Zechariah 11 as pointing to a one eyed anti-christ.
    (The verse says "may his right eye be darkened")
    This interests me as a Muslim because of hadiths about dajjal...
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    Isam teaches Jesus is the Messiah / Christ and so...

    Isam teaches Jesus is the Messiah / Christ and so Islam passes the "test".

    There are other religions that explicitly deny Jesus is Christ go deal with them instead.
  18. So why then do Jews not believe in a multi...

    So why then do Jews not believe in a multi personal God? why do they argue against trinitarianism? Do you have an answer other than "Jews didn't understand their scripture" or "it was part of God's...
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    Noah predated Judaism by a very long time so this...

    Noah predated Judaism by a very long time so this matter doesn't rest on Jewish records.

    The son is unnamed.

    It says Noah and his family who believed were saved.
  20. Jesus had nothing to do with Kedar; he never...

    Jesus had nothing to do with Kedar; he never brought a new law.
    And it doesn't matter what Christian s think Isaiah 42 is about.

    That's what Paul said
    Paul admits to being two faced.
    I...
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    Asking me which of the three sons died is a...

    Asking me which of the three sons died is a fallacious question.
    Islam believes Noah had a fourth son who rebelled and did not get on board the ark.
    The bible only focuses on the sons that lived;...
  22. No, I'd be a Monotheist. (See John 8:54 and the...

    No, I'd be a Monotheist. (See John 8:54 and the rest of the Bible). Only the Father is God, not the son and not the Holy Spirit.

    And its true, like Trinitarians...the Hindus also believe in a...
  23. Jesus does not fit the requirements of the...

    Jesus does not fit the requirements of the servant of Isaiah 42.


    Paul claimed Jesus appointed him as apostle to the Gentiles... (so why then did he became as a Jew to go to Jews?)


    Jesus...
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    His rebellious 4th son, not mentioned in the...

    His rebellious 4th son, not mentioned in the Bible.
  25. No question of a multi-personal God. Because in...

    No question of a multi-personal God. Because in John 8:54 Jesus directly addressing the issue God.
    He explicitly states God is the Father. Not the son or the Holy Spirit, but the Father.
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