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    My degree is not in psychology, but just one...

    My degree is not in psychology, but just one observation: as I studied some American groups most here would strongly label "cults", there were several stunning common denominators. Yes, all were...
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    IMO, Catholicism is in decline in part for that...

    IMO, Catholicism is in decline in part for that same reason. Some thirty million ex-RCC'ers just currently just in the USA alone, a group larger than the 3 largest Protestant groups combined. I...
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    Sean, you said the same thing. As a former...

    Sean, you said the same thing.

    As a former Catholic, I know what I was taught. And I double checked that - triple checked it - over and over, including in a special meeting I had by appointment...
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    A fine example. .

    A fine example.




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    Fundamentalism - whether religious, political,...

    Fundamentalism - whether religious, political, ethnic, racial or whatever - is often.... ugly and usually disinterested in truth.

    There are Catholic fundamentalists (I won't mention names, but...
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    I'm at a complete loss to know what that has to...

    I'm at a complete loss to know what that has to do with the topic.... And since those are both Catholic views, you seem to only be permitting that Catholics go to heaven.
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    Good! Then notice, the RCC is never mentioned. ...

    Good! Then notice, the RCC is never mentioned. RCC "Tradition" is never mentioned. The RCC is never promised anything, never given anything, never exempted from anything, never authorized for...
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    The RCC is not. Dogmatically. Since 1551 (a...

    The RCC is not. Dogmatically. Since 1551 (a few years after Luther's death).
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    We've already done that. You TRIED to say that...

    We've already done that. You TRIED to say that Trent ONLY said some generic, general, non-specific CHANGE happens and that we can and must speak ONLY of CHANGE (you did so to TRY to make it SEEM...
  10. Patience is often mandated. And at CARM, is...

    I'm interested in hearing an answer to this, too.[/QUOTE]


    Patience is often mandated. And at CARM, is often not rewarded.




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    Ditto...

    Ditto...
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    The RCC in 1551 declared the "how" is an alchemic...

    The RCC in 1551 declared the "how" is an alchemic transubstantiation leaving behind an indisquishable mixture of reality and Aristotelian Accidents.






    Correct. But the RC Denomination...
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    Then I suggest you cease stating such is CATHOLIC...

    Then I suggest you cease stating such is CATHOLIC or what CATHOLICS teach, believe, profess. Rather, you should state that such is the view of your denomination.

    Yes, on very, very, very rare...
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    NO. "Consubstantiation" is yet another ROMAN...

    NO.

    "Consubstantiation" is yet another ROMAN CATHOLIC theory invented by the very same "scholastics" that invented Transubstantiation in the middle ages. It is associated with several ROMAN...
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    IMO, you need to read/listen to what Catholics...

    IMO, you need to read/listen to what Catholics proclaim. You need to listen to more Catholic laity, teachers, pastors. You need to read the posts of Catholics here at CARM.

    You MAY........
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    1. No denomination has changed its corpus of...

    1. No denomination has changed its corpus of doctrine more than the RC one.

    2. The RC Denomination agrees with NONE in terms of theology/doctrine.

    3. NONE of the distinctive RC...
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    No. If I believe God created the world, must I...

    No.

    If I believe God created the world, must I tell Him HOW? If I believe the Son became incarnate in Jesus, must I ask HOW? Must I find some pagan, prescience theories and DOGMATIZE them,...
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    .... according to my Catholic Deacon, you thus...

    .... according to my Catholic Deacon, you thus are not a Catholic. A Catholic does not appoint self as the arbiter, a Catholic does not question what he/she is taught, a Catholic is in docilic...
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    You don't understand: Where there is...

    You don't understand: Where there is Catholicism, there is superior culture - claims the OP.

    But only 3 very, very, very tiny Catholic countries were offered as examples of Catholic culture. ...
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    Can you? All 2,865 points of the RCC...

    Can you?

    All 2,865 points of the RCC Catechism?


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    30 MILLION Catholics have left that denomination,...

    30 MILLION Catholics have left that denomination, just currently just in the US alone. So, what is your point?



    The Catholic Review > Fertile Soil: Thirty million former Catholics: What can...
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    1. Document that they are Catholic cultures and...

    1. Document that they are Catholic cultures and that what you regard as "Catholic" is in rapid increase in those 3 nations.

    2. Document that these - distinctively and exclusively - have...
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    How do the words you quote or the vague reference...

    How do the words you quote or the vague reference to something in John 6 support the RCC's new, unique, Eucharistic Dogma of Transubstantiation?

    What you post here seems like good reasons to...
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    Please quote the words in John 6. Please...

    Please quote the words in John 6.
    Please embolden or underline each of the following words:
    "Convert"
    "Change"
    "Become"
    "Alchemy"
    "Transubstantiation"
    "Appears"
    "Not"
    "Substance"
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    1. I think TRUTH is a relevant issue. I think...

    1. I think TRUTH is a relevant issue. I think that in some matters (and faith is included in this) "proof" in any absolute or mathematical or even empirical sense is not possible (there seems to...
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