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    Seeing those Red Herrings again huh? What about...

    Seeing those Red Herrings again huh? What about pink Elephants, are you seeing any of them also? Kind of sounds like a bad L.S.D. trip, do you think that you will come out of it?



    If you...
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    Believe what you want then, I am not going to...

    Believe what you want then, I am not going to waste any more of my time flogging a dead horse on this with you.

    You are stubborn and enjoy being thus and therefore nothing anyone says unto you...
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    That is because you have been taught wrong about...

    That is because you have been taught wrong about what it really means for Jesus to be the Son of God but the scriptures are clear that Jesus was begotten into created time when he was born in...
  4. Adam wasn't born, but was created as a full grown...

    Adam wasn't born, but was created as a full grown man capable of knowing the difference between right and wrong, and Isaiah makes it clear in 7:15 that Jesus had to grown in this knowledge, so I am...
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    Binyawmene, why are you posting in Latin here,...

    Binyawmene, why are you posting in Latin here, come on now, what is your real purpose in this? I don't believe that Sedes speaks in Latin, so what is your purpose other than to show off your hotshot...
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    Am I supposed to think that you are a real...

    Am I supposed to think that you are a real sophisticate because you used these fancy words above?

    I don't even know what they mean and aren't really even interested in knowing either and as far...
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    This is where you are wrong and cannot prove from...

    This is where you are wrong and cannot prove from the Bible what you are preaching either.

    Although unlike John, I do believe that Jesus was the Son of God from his very birth, you still should...
  8. Are you that simple that you still can't see the...

    Are you that simple that you still can't see the truth about this TW?

    Adam had that power available unto him also, "For there is no temptation taken you except that which is common to man but God...
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    Posted twice accidentally, deleted by the poster....

    Posted twice accidentally, deleted by the poster.

    Joseph
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    . Just as soon as we see support from...

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    Just as soon as we see support from scripture in a given teaching from Paul or any other inspired writer on either the Trinity or the Hypostatic Union, which seems not to matter unto you at all...
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    Was it a child who brought sin into the world...

    Was it a child who brought sin into the world originally Jack, Jesus had to start in his redemption of man on the same level as Adam and Adam was a full grown man quite capable of knowing right from...
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    However, the Life is eternal life and this isn't...

    However, the Life is eternal life and this isn't a created life but the actual life of God himself imparted unto those who he wills to have this life and the fact is that Jesus had to be given this...
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    Does it really need to be spelled out for you TW?...

    Does it really need to be spelled out for you TW?

    Oh, that's right, I forgot that you are brainwashed with your preconceived college taught nonsense about this verse and so yes it does have to be...
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    The support for this is very clearly seen in...

    The support for this is very clearly seen in Paul's contrasting Adam with Jesus in Romans five TW.

    What do you need more TW, for God to draw you a picture or something? It is pretty obvious TW,...
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    No, but the Son has the power to raise who the...

    No, but the Son has the power to raise who the Father wills to be raised and that is what is actually said here, and even if Jesus raises whom he wills to be raised, it is because he is in line with...
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    Jesus very clearly thanked the Father out loud...

    Jesus very clearly thanked the Father out loud for HEARING him, so what did he hear him say TW?


    Yes, Jesus said this out loud so that the people would know that Jesus had asked the Father and...
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    More and more simplicity TW and apparently never...

    More and more simplicity TW and apparently never ending also.

    Adam came into this world as a full grown man, Jesus came into this world as a baby, and so if God was going to make the choice...
  18. I can't even begin to tell you how little it is...

    I can't even begin to tell you how little it is that I really care about what you label things to be Jack, not after seeing first hand the way that you manipulate scripture like you do, no Sir.

    I...
  19. For one thing, if Jesus is subordinate unto any...

    For one thing, if Jesus is subordinate unto any other member of the Trinity, then what Trins will argue that Hebrews 1:3 means contradicts their stand on this subordination bit concerning Jesus.
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    The Father did and if you read the story once...

    The Father did and if you read the story once again, Jesus lifted up his eyes unto heaven and thanked the Father for hearing him before he spoke the words "Lazarus come forth".

    Now, it shouldn't...
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    Ah, but you most certainly have mentioned that I...

    Ah, but you most certainly have mentioned that I don't follow the Unitarian viewpoint more than once and I would like to know where it is that you see a statement of what the common Unitarian...
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    Only one not born from the direct procreation of...

    Only one not born from the direct procreation of Adam and one that is also protected in some way by God like Jesus was.

    Probably because God's own Logos (reasoning, thinking and mindset) was...
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    The same exact thing that was reinstated unto him...

    The same exact thing that was reinstated unto him in Philippians 2:8-11 and which Paul makes so clear that even the biggest dummy in the world should be able to see it, providing of course that he is...
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    The same exact thing which you yourself are also...

    The same exact thing which you yourself are also doing TW; therefore, judge not in a way that you yourself will be judged by!


    Joseph
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    You are correct in that "when" is not the issue...

    You are correct in that "when" is not the issue here, but rather that the Father committed the judgment unto the Son to begin with.

    So your problem is in that the Father committed all judgment to...
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