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    Pssst... nobody who gets eternal lie in heaven is...

    Pssst... nobody who gets eternal lie in heaven is NOT controlled by the spirit!!!!!

    As soon as you start reading the actual words of these verses it will start going easier for you.

    noble
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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6216272] The bible doesn't...

    The bible doesn't say, so how would I know specific names. I have told you it is connected to the Roman army. If you are really interested in knowing, study that... I'm not going to look thru it...
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    Then why does Paul call it a spiritual body in...

    Then why does Paul call it a spiritual body in verse 44?

    noble
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    Well, isn't that nice! SO I have stated that...

    Well, isn't that nice! SO I have stated that interpretation 50 times and you have never said WHAT is wrong...you didn't this time either. All you say is:
    1) I put my meaning to them.... whoopie ding...
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    Oh yes Happy Thanksgiving! Up here in Canada we...

    Oh yes Happy Thanksgiving! Up here in Canada we celebrate Thanksgiving earlier, but please enjoy your day in Florida!

    noble
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    Jesus said directly to Martha's face that if she...

    Jesus said directly to Martha's face that if she lived and if she believed, she would never die.

    Her spirit went to heaven immediately which I agree with but to never die, she had to be eternally...
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    We are using the same scriptures Quasar. It is...

    We are using the same scriptures Quasar. It is just that you are adjusting what the scripture says.

    I have posted the verses along with what I feel they mean probably ?50 times in this thread and...
  8. Thread: Matthew 24

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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6214407] The must have been...

    The must have been because this happened in 70 AD.

    We are into the 1000 year reign being on earth or in heaven...............




    Rev. 19:19 And I saw the beast and ]b]the kings of the earth...
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    [QUOTE=noble;6214195] I can prove it was in...

    I can prove it was in the first century and that would lend some serious credence to what I say tho wouldn't it? AND it sure blows up you 'hasn't happened yet' thing too!

    noble
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    I didn't see any scriptural evidence against soul...

    I didn't see any scriptural evidence against soul sleep but what are you concerned about?

    noble
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    I have done your stuff to death, here is my side...

    I have done your stuff to death, here is my side one more time!

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    5 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will...
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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6213044] We have told you many...

    We have told you many times what the answers are and you just ignore those answers because it doesn't agree with your belief system. SO either change your belief system or leave it as it is, your...
  13. Thread: Matthew 24

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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6213025] I make a comment...

    I make a comment about cloud to ground lightning and I get back something about a reign being on earth which is not the key thought of Matthew 24 which the thread is supposed to be about.

    A false...
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    Do you gave any thoughts of your own? YES...

    Do you gave any thoughts of your own?



    YES if they die AFTER the last trump.




    I do not believe in a rapture. I see nothing of such a thing in the bible.
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    So was Jesus not resurrected ? Whoa Rod that's...

    So was Jesus not resurrected ? Whoa Rod that's scary!!!!!

    If Jesus is resurrected as a ...what do you call Him..... a omnipresent spirit.... then did He get resurrected twice?

    Oh and let's run...
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    So about a year ? ago I started mentioning that...

    So about a year ? ago I started mentioning that Jesus comes to my church every Sunday. That doesn't fit in so good with the physical bodied Jesus and now we see that the nay sayers are sneaking into...
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    I'll clarify as good as I can and you may have to...

    I'll clarify as good as I can and you may have to question me on certain points.. I am pretty sure I understand what your ideas are but correct me if you see where I mis- interpret you.

    First, the...
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    There are a few errors here and I'll point them...

    There are a few errors here and I'll point them out for you.



    The body is indeed dead and it will say dead, it decays and returns to dust...gone-dee! The moment we die .... AFTER THE LAST...
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    Yes and that is why I have never figured out if...

    Yes and that is why I have never figured out if hell is eternal or what...hopefully I never know.
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    Well what an opportunity boys, if we have went...

    Well what an opportunity boys, if we have went down all your rabbit trails it must be time to actually deal with the verses I put forth in post #`1!!

    Here we go guys: I'll just thru the word so...
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    Remember , what this conversation stems from is...

    Remember , what this conversation stems from is this:

    That is what I answered about the rapture .

    Quasar come back with Enoch and Elijah, two special cases from the OT. These guys are supposed...
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    I'll stick with the soul sleeping until the last...

    I'll stick with the soul sleeping until the last trump. That is the only way I can explain John 11:25 and 26. Martha was told she would never die.... but she did physically die and her earth body is...
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    Hey Rod ... both me an Jesus each said JESUS...

    Hey Rod ... both me an Jesus each said JESUS would be in my church....keep that in mind...JESUS visited my church, JESUS talked to Paul near Damascus... keep with it , you'll figure it out.
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    Keep that thought developing, you just might be...

    Keep that thought developing, you just might be starting to get it!!!!!

    Get back to me if you have any questions.

    noble
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    Hi doug, Something to think about... As you...

    Hi doug,

    Something to think about...

    As you read thru the bible you ewill notice the term 'sleep' being used as people wait for the resurrections of the dead. Why doesn't the bible say HE IS...
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