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    nonsense attempt to say Byzantine mss are corrupt like Vaticanus and Sinaiticus

    Obviously your post begged the question, since it did even remotely address the thousands of corruptions in Vaticanus and Sinaiticus.

    Bogus assertion. Without even a smidgen of evidence offered....
  2. trivially easy to see that the Tomson 1576 is simply a 1560 update

    Hi,

    Not at all. Nor was your claim supported. More study is welcome.

    However it is rather irrelevant as you showed very clearly that the Tomson text is simply an update, not a fresh...
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    repetitive jargon tries to mask the logical fail

    Hi,

    Rick, you are repeating yourself.
    And I demonstrated the logic fail right above.

    begging the question,

    fallacy of scale (or a fallacy of degree)

    hiding your position (a common...
  4. demonstrating the myth of a new Latin translation

    Hi,

    The consistent maintenance of word order, and the usually identical vocabulary and phrasing, is the simplest demonstration that any idea of a fresh translation from a Latin edition is a...
  5. Clearly, my reference was to textual changes,...

    Clearly, my reference was to textual changes, especially the major ones documented in the thread. Where the 1576 and AV agree, having improved the 1560 Geneva. You showed many such verses.

    And I...
  6. "In his Latin translation of the New Testament...

    "In his Latin translation of the New Testament (1556) Beza had stressed the Greek article,
    but Tomson carried this tendency to an extreme."
    Biblical References in Shakespeare's Plays, 2011,...
  7. move in the right direction

    Hi,

    The problem with the NKJV text is not primarily the underlying text. Deficient translation with many errors, some places with opposite meaning from the pure AV, and the status as a...
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    Much of your posting has deteriorated to where we...

    Much of your posting has deteriorated to where we have repetitive rhetoric, sans substance. The same mantras are repeated, with little attempt to work with the truth and facts. Nonetheless, I do try...
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    John 1:28 - These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan

    Hi,

    John 1:28
    These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan,
    where John was baptizing.

    Obviously, since there is little evidence at all on the verse before Origen.

    However, this is...
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    Codex Bezae

    Hi,

    Some similar. Many different. Why not tell us the % of variants where Vaticanus, Sianiticus and Bezae have the same text contra the mass of Byzantine mss?

    There main "association" was as...
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    Hi, Nor have you recommended the satanic...

    Hi,

    Nor have you recommended the satanic bible of Anton LaVey. Which, by itself, tells us nothing.

    Perhaps you would criticize the errors in LaVey ... maybe .. however what about the 1000s...
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    Hi, This is all spin and diversion. ...

    Hi,

    This is all spin and diversion.

    Ultra-corrupt manuscripts like Vaticanus and Bezae had been rejected in the superb Reformation Bible process, without afawk one single ultra-minority...
  13. three streams of English Bible style and excellence contributing to the pure AV-1611

    Hi,

    Glenn Conjurske (1947-2001) wrote a fine section about the English language contributions of the earlier Bibles (emphasis added).

    Olde Paths and Ancient Landmarks
    The Composite...
  14. Nonsense. Balderdash. Fabrication. The point...

    Nonsense. Balderdash. Fabrication.

    The point comes out the same with or without the phrase. You really owe Marke an apology.
  15. Charles Spurgeon and Psalm 12

    Hi,

    Thanks, that reference is from:

    Simple But Sound (No. 2955)
    Charles Haddon Spurgeon
    Metropolitan Tabernacle, Newington, 1863 (and published throughout the life of Spurgeon, 1834-1892)...
  16. the Laurence Tomson awkward grammar

    Hi,

    The point is simple.

    Tomson used the English "that" where there is the Greek definite article far more than Theodore Beza had awkwardisms in the Latin. These additional changes had to come...
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    focusing in on unjust and divers measures

    Hi,

    Since you have never criticized even the most corrupt critical text editions, with 1000s of errors including dozens of verses missing from the Geneva and AV, including the CT missing the...
  18. Hi, Amen. You are welcome to do your...

    Hi,

    Amen.

    You are welcome to do your Hebrew grammar parsing, and compare your ideas with Rashi and other Hebraic scholars, given on the AV1611 thread.

    Yours in Jesus,
    Steven Avery
  19. majoring on the majors, staying on the topic

    Hi,

    This we have discussed 100 times before.

    Since you can not identify the original language manuscripts, nor will you even state unequivocally what are the original langauges of all the NT...
  20. textline, textline, whose got the textline?

    Hi,

    In regard to the circularity with early mss of making a text-type out of one Greek ms (Bezae) or sees a textline in two Greek mss (P75 and Vaticanus) it might be objected that Sinaiticus,...
  21. (dup -wrong thread)

    (dup -wrong thread)
  22. reading the whole Psalm 12

    You are welcome to do your preferred exegesis.

    However as I showed on the AV 1611 thread, even the learned Hebraic scholars saw the verses as having application to the preservation of the words...
  23. the "invented" Byzantine text :)

    Where are your quotes and the backing for the quotes? I see a lot of hot air about "facts" that were wrong again and again. You did not even know that the 2 Old Syriac mss are not the Peshitta (with...
  24. Metzger's confusion .. pointed out by Kurt Aland

    Hi,

    Simply put, the Byzantine text was not "invented".

    Which is totally irrelevant, since their is only one large Egyptian Alexandrian mss extant from that time, and some fragments that are...
  25. Hi, I know there are many people who do not...

    Hi,

    I know there are many people who do not the simple appeal to the consistency of scripture.

    You are welcome to share your preferred exegesis, the forum is open.

    Yours in Jesus,
    Steven...
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