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    Back in the day when Jesus was creating the...

    Back in the day when Jesus was creating the amoeba He was a spirit. However He had a form because He raised man in that image. Then Jesus became flesh...He wasn't flesh before, He could live among...
  2. Thread: Soul Sleep?

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    Yes, I believe the clear teaching of Luke 16 too...

    Yes, I believe the clear teaching of Luke 16 too and I can't see two people sleeping and carrying on a conversation.

    Then the BODY is rotted to nothing and 2 COR 5:1 seals the deal... new body in...
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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6132379][QUOTE=noble;6130553][QUOT...

    Very easy to miss because the 1000 year reign as in heaven not on earth. Should we go thru that?

    noble
  4. Thread: Matthew 24

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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6132345][QUOTE=noble;6130543] ...

    The THEY in Luke 21:

    Actually all of the accounts refer to THEY here in contrast to YOU who were the 4 men Jesus was taking to. THEY were the people ionvolved in the wrath of God who would be the...
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    Yes, I call Jesus a spirit in a heavenly body, I...

    Yes, I call Jesus a spirit in a heavenly body, I say we will be raised to heaven as a spirit in a heavenly body and I say the heavenly body is invisible to mortals.

    noble
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    I don't read this verses as the body being sown...

    I don't read this verses as the body being sown is the same, but..

    37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else.

    Then we have...
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    If you repeat the same question you...

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    If you repeat the same question you get the same answer, what did you expect? I usually add a few new verses for you to look at but it seems you never do.




    40 years you say, okay...
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    I'll vote ...two resurrections of the dead. The...

    I'll vote ...two resurrections of the dead. The first resurrection of Rev 20:4 and 6 and 1000 figurative years later the GWT judgment and resurrection. ALso noted in Daniel 12:2 and 3 and Matthew...
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    There is another point to consider here. When we...

    There is another point to consider here. When we die and take up our place in heaven we will have body as Jesus has, Phil 3:21.

    Our body type is specified by Paul in 1 COR 15:

    44 it is sown a...
  10. Thread: Soul Sleep?

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    Luke 16 31 “He said to him, ‘If...

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    Luke 16

    31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

    Luke wrote this before Jesus died on...
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    But Rod just doesn't know that! Maybe just...

    But Rod just doesn't know that! Maybe just refuses to know that!!!
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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6130493][QUOTE=noble;612954...

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    He wrote .... all things written!!! You say NOT all things.... and I changed Luke??? Give your head a shake!





    They should know by now.
  13. Thread: Matthew 24

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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6130483][QUOTE=noble;6129498] ...

    Go back thru some of your responses Roby and read what is happening. You state something and a full pret will come on and show you where you screwed up. There is no response from you except for your...
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    I have a verse for you Rod, from 1 COR 15 45 So...

    I have a verse for you Rod, from 1 COR 15
    45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

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    I'll just omit this first part because...

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    I'll just omit this first part because I prefer the meaning of 'presence' for parousia too. Strong, who is the one I go with, uses presence, coming as well and yes I prefer presence too....
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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6128765][QUOTE=noble;612742...

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    Well that stupid Luke, didn't anybody tell him your truth?



    Rev 11 42 ...42 months. 66 to 70 AD.

    Now, read on in Luke 21:...25 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars....
  17. Thread: Matthew 24

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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6128723] So can you...

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    So can you prove that then?



    Nothing slow about this!!!!! Jesus saw the thief THAT day and was resurrected three days later... wot hoppen?
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    You are still calling Jesus a liar I see. Man I...

    You are still calling Jesus a liar I see. Man I love that come back.... you are calling Jesus a liar because Jesus said He would raise THIS healthy temple of His body and you jump all over the forum...
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    All of this hinges on the fact that there IS such...

    All of this hinges on the fact that there IS such a thing as a first second coming. You use the assumption of two parousias to prove there is two parousias!
    Then beyond that you still use your...
  20. Thread: Soul Sleep?

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    I would say ALL not many. On...

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    I would say ALL not many.



    On what do you base that assumption? Yes, Abraham and Daniel are in the same place but what makes you think their mortal BODIES sleep/rest?
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    [QUOTE=Quasar;6127408][QUOTE=noble;6127202] An...

    An answer to what question Quasar?

    This is what I asked Rod:

    So go ahead and explain to the people how this great trib can be a global affair then Rod. Don't worry about explaining it to me...
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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6126900][QUOTE=noble;6126170][QUOT...

    Information overload again maybe so let's go back to just a single thing to work on. Luke told us all things,... well here, I'll let Luke tell it:

    None left according to Luke:
    Luke 21
    22 because...
  23. Thread: Matthew 24

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    [QUOTE=robycop3;6126897] Not sounded yet????...

    Not sounded yet???? Can you prove that?

    Jesus went to paradise the day He died. Jesus was raised to life three days later... go figure! How did that work?

    Read 1 COR 15 again but let the words...
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    FYI, (what a term eh) Rod you nor anyone else has...

    FYI, (what a term eh) Rod you nor anyone else has never, in 50 years, presented me with biblical references that say Jesus is PHYSICAL bodied in heaven... and they never will because He isn't.
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  25. Thread: Soul Sleep?

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    Quasar Let's go to the bare bones.... ...

    Quasar

    Let's go to the bare bones....

    Daniel 12
    2 Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt....
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