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    Or it is more likely that he does have an...

    Or it is more likely that he does have an understanding and because of his bias, is holding back some of his knowledge lest anyone else should know the many variables on the word that is translated...
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    [QUOTE=towerwatchman;5934065]. Again you...

    Isn't that really exactly what you think that you are because you have the head knowledge that you do, a determiner of truth?

    It really doesn't matter how many people abuse the idea of being led...
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    Because the KJV would make it seem like Paul was...

    Because the KJV would make it seem like Paul was saying that Jesus did not consider his being equal unto God as a robbery against God and that isn't what Paul was saying at all.

    He was saying it...
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    Paul however never stated, "considered it not...

    Paul however never stated, "considered it not robbery to be equal unto God" but rather, "considered not equality with God a thing to be grasped".

    It is understandable however how a guy like you...
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    You will have to do better than this Sir. Also,...

    You will have to do better than this Sir. Also, I guess you don't understand the symbolism that is used in books like Daniel, Ezekiel, Zechariah and Revelation do you?





    That is correct...
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    It is all and the same thing John, but I wouldn't...

    It is all and the same thing John, but I wouldn't expect someone of your limited knowledge to understand this and so I leave you in your error on this, after all it is your choice and not mine.
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    So then John, does the words "form (morphe) of a...

    So then John, does the words "form (morphe) of a servant" make Jesus truly a servant or did he just choose to act as one even though being born to rule all men like God his Father?




    You see...
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    You actually hit the nail on the head here...

    You actually hit the nail on the head here however Jack, because Jesus wasn't actually a servant and was never born to be a servant and that is why Paul used the word "morphe" here to start with,...
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    What? What on earth are you talking about TW? You...

    What? What on earth are you talking about TW? You are not making the slightest bit of sense here at all.

    The chronological order does not start at verse 6 but with verse 5 and being in the form...
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    The demons personified within the man. You...

    The demons personified within the man.

    You need to go back and read more of the dictionary definition for personification, for when an abstract idea or concept is personified within a living...
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    Deleted by poster, accidentally posted twice for...

    Deleted by poster, accidentally posted twice for some reason.
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    The evidence in what the Jews believed at the...

    The evidence in what the Jews believed at the time of Jesus is given in Jesus' own words whether you like it or not DogB, for when teaching the people to pray, Jesus only spoke of one person that was...
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    Yes and the chronological order starts with the...

    Yes and the chronological order starts with the one who was given the name and Title of Jesus Christ and this was done at his birth and not before it.

    So then, he was born as in the form of God...
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    What's interesting is how one must assume and...

    What's interesting is how one must assume and read Trinitariaism into Scripture to come to these conclusions and especially when one considers the fact that no such doctrine was actually ever taught...
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    Angels = messengers = either human or angelic...

    Angels = messengers = either human or angelic beings.

    By the way, being you think that you are an authority on what a personification is also, where is your definition of it found within the...
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    That is right, all that the Memra amounted to was...

    That is right, all that the Memra amounted to was a symbolic and figurative philosophizing with the word of God, just like what the Greeks were doing with the Logos and it wasn't intended to be...
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    What is interesting however, is the fact that...

    What is interesting however, is the fact that when Jesus taught the people to pray, he did not acknowledge the ideas found in the Targum, but only spoke and taught of one person that was to be prayed...
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    I have given plenty of scriptural support for...

    I have given plenty of scriptural support for this TW.

    Fact: Paul is speaking of the man whose name was Christ Jesus and is not speaking of anything that you think he might have been before he was...
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    I remember when I was younger and my Grandfather...

    I remember when I was younger and my Grandfather used to make me go to the Catholic church with him and although I was not yet a believer in God or Christ, I could feel an intimate touch from God...
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    I agree with the inspiration and the grammar and...

    I agree with the inspiration and the grammar and have no problem with either, it is your idea about them that I am not in agreement with TW.

    By the way, the same rule applies unto the inspired...
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    Let me ask you this TW, where did the evil...

    Let me ask you this TW, where did the evil thoughts come from within Satan's mind when your version of Satan the angel fell from his original position with God?

    You see, you end up with the same...
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    Yes, one would indeed be better off for his cause...

    Yes, one would indeed be better off for his cause to go fishing everyday instead of posting here in that case.

    Nevertheless, there will always be those who are using milk that think that they are...
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    Whatever you say professor De La, for I indeed...

    Whatever you say professor De La, for I indeed realize that you Sir are the epitome of Greatness in Knowledge, at least that is in your own mind you are anyhow.

    By the way John, your translation...
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    Maybe you ought to look up the word grasp in the...

    Maybe you ought to look up the word grasp in the Greek John, for it means to take forcefully or to seize upon.

    Another example of one posting on this forum who doesn't look up the meaning of...
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    There are many trin believers who post on this...

    There are many trin believers who post on this forum that if I was still a Trinitarian, I would be embarrassed by the comments that they make, if you know what I mean?



    Forums like this are...
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