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  1. Farewell... for now

    The study that was the focus of this thread, offered in three parts -- Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 -- extended a week beyond the end of summer and I've stuck around for another week beyond that to engage...
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    You're welcome. The poster to whom you...

    You're welcome.



    The poster to whom you responded in both cases was citing passages from the Book of Mormon as hostile witnesses against the LDS posters here... s/he is not a Mormon him/herself...
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    They are "books" in the unique Latter-day Saint...

    They are "books" in the unique Latter-day Saint volume of "scripture" known as the Book of Mormon. A full listing of its "books" are as follows:


    1 Nephi
    2 Nephi
    Jacob
    Enos
    Jarom
    Omni
    Words...
  4. A few comments in correction/clarification, if I...

    A few comments in correction/clarification, if I may. While a PhD program is near on the horizon, the thesis that I am presently writing and will be defending in the spring is actually for a second...
  5. I think it goes without saying that it's not on...

    I think it goes without saying that it's not on my list of things to do...

    Kind regards,
    Jonathan
  6. Again, providing such criticism is offered with...

    Again, providing such criticism is offered with the same methodological rigor and sophistication that I invested in my posts, yes. Something tells me neither individual (nor those suggested by your...
  7. My reasons for not doing so were provided in my...

    My reasons for not doing so were provided in my post here and those circumstances have not (and will not) change. As to the matter of accepting criticism, I am open to any that is given here provided...
  8. Please don't mistake your inability to evaluate...

    Please don't mistake your inability to evaluate the grammatical case I made from the Hebrew with an alleged failure on my part to prove my case... I've most certainly demonstrated it and it can even...
  9. As zaitzeff has already intimated in his response...

    As zaitzeff has already intimated in his response to you here, this would actually work in your favor... if there were anything favorable about your position (which there isn't). Stop and think about...
  10. Allow me to reiterate from my previous post: it...

    Allow me to reiterate from my previous post: it is insufficient to point to the general phaenomenon of linguistic shift without making an argument specific to the phrase in question in light of one...
  11. Let me first say that my thread is a response to...

    Let me first say that my thread is a response to the claim of one of your fellow LDS here that "this phrase is used in the same way for both texts." The two texts in question here are the Hebrew...
  12. Your criticism here is completely unwarranted......

    Your criticism here is completely unwarranted... I've made numerous references to genre in general or restricted my comments concerning ויהי to Hebrew narrative throughout this thread. Below are a...
  13. This evidence would have to be evaluated in...

    This evidence would have to be evaluated in tandem with the commonality of that phraseology in the same time period and whether it exists in any of the writings attributable directly to Joseph Smith....
  14. It is certainly compatible with it... Kind...

    It is certainly compatible with it...

    Kind regards,
    Jonathan
  15. First of all, applying an argument to be made...

    First of all, applying an argument to be made about the Pentateuch to the entirety of what you refer to as the "Old Testament" is an argumentative fallacy -- the fallacy of composition -- that you...
  16. I appreciate that. Indeed, I am sympathetic to...

    I appreciate that. Indeed, I am sympathetic to the critical arguments that can be made with respect to Book of Mormon authorship and using what I've already posted as a launching point for building...
  17. Blunders re: "And it came to pass" in Mosiah and a Conclusion

    To briefly summarize, the Hebrew ויהי (vayhi) is translated with "And it came to pass" (or something similar) approximately four hundred times in the KJV translation of the Hebrew Bible.[1] In all...
  18. Not really because I'm under the impression that...

    Not really because I'm under the impression that you share the perspective of your interlocutor on the matter of late 2nd millennium/Mosaic authorship of the Pentateuch. Is that not the case?

    Kind...
  19. I did qualify my statement as follows (underlined...

    I did qualify my statement as follows (underlined emphasis added): "the phrase appears uniformly distributed throughout Book of Mormon narrative..." and I am basing this on the figures in Smith's...
  20. Of course, Adamic... I completely forgot about...

    Of course, Adamic... I completely forgot about that. Back to the drawing board, I guess... :p

    Kind regards,
    Jonathan
  21. What's that supposed to mean? You don't think...

    What's that supposed to mean? You don't think I'll be back tomorrow, as promised, to post about the problems with how "And it came to pass" (or equivalents) are used in the book of Mosiah? Oh, that...
  22. Whoa, whoa, whoa... excluding the bits of Aramaic...

    Whoa, whoa, whoa... excluding the bits of Aramaic found in Genesis, Jeremiah, Ezra and Daniel, the rest of the collection you call the "Old Testament" was written in Hebrew. I'm aware of no competent...
  23. Please note clarifications and corrections (typos...

    Please note clarifications and corrections (typos excluded) in red bold above. Points 4 and 6, which go together and are marked off with blue bold italics, are not part of my present argument. I am,...
  24. I had intended to post the second part of this...

    I had intended to post the second part of this post containing the various blunders in the use of "And it came to pass" in Mosiah today, but I decided instead to concentrate on responding to follow...
  25. Thanks for the continued engagement with the...

    Thanks for the continued engagement with the material.



    Conservative in what sense? If you could please clarify. Thanks.



    I posted the extent of this variety in the range Genesis through...
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