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    Hi, The AV, an independent edition of the...

    Hi,

    The AV, an independent edition of the Received Text. This was explained quite nicely by Edward Freer Hills.

    I agree that this may be a more difficult type question for some considered AV...
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    responding to the derail game

    Hi,

    Once again,
    Carpenter, do you have any difficulty in acknowledging the correction to the OP?

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    What a silly diversion above.

    Anyone who wants...
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    Hi, Once again, Carpenter, do you have any...

    Hi,

    Once again,
    Carpenter, do you have any difficulty in acknowledging the correction to the OP?

    Once thing I have liked about a couple of posters, I think this applies to Carpenter and...
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    Titus 2:13 - Erasmus and Stunica and Carranza

    Hi,

    In the 1500s, Desiderius Erasmus and Theodore Beza are known for taking different positions on the possible identity translation of Titus 2:13.

    One point that is little known is that this...
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    Hi, Carpenter, do you have any difficulty in...

    Hi,

    Carpenter, do you have any difficulty in acknowledging the correction to the OP?

    (Where you thought the only TR text that == to the AV text was the anachronistic Scrivener text, not...
  6. The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow

    Hi,

    Thanks for sharing this, J316.

    If it were more accurate to remove Father and Son language in Arabic, it would be more accurate to do so in English.

    We know that this does not occur in...
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    Since your questions were based on information...

    Since your questions were based on information that was misinformation:

    And there was a well-known TR text the learned men of the AV-1611 used with the full verse, the Beza editions of 1582, 1589...
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    use of roman font in AV 1611

    Hi,

    It is trivially obvious to see that the roman font (which for many verses is equivalent to italics, and I accept with thanks the correction to the sense of my previous post) was used for more...
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    Hi, Why are you repeating the same error...

    Hi,

    Why are you repeating the same error "added words not in the original language text". That is simply your fabrication.

    Which clearly referred to hundreds (or thousands) of italicized...
  10. Henry Alford blasts hymn theory to pieces

    Hi,

    The true analysis from CARM was quoted on the censored forum.

    One other interesting point.

    The hymn theory came after Griesbach, yet I was very careful to say that not all writers fell...
  11. Edward Harwood, George Benson and Symon Budny on 1 Timothy 3:16.

    Hi,

    Another example of the support for "which" was the 1776 Greek New Testament of Edward Harwood (1729-1794) along with the unusual paraphrase version of 1768. The GNT error is noted quite...
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    Hi, Where do you get this "implying"? If...

    Hi,

    Where do you get this "implying"?

    If the learned men of the AV thought words were "added" improperly, they could simply omit the words.

    As for the "original language text", the...
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    Beza and Elzevir texts, Stephanus 1550

    Hi,

    Oops. That was Crispus, on this forum. Mea culpa. (The actual thread is poofed.)

    The Greek Byzantine and Majority Text advocates, who are often very hostile to the TR-AV purity, have...
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    ECW support for 1 John 2:23b

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    I simply asked the question "were you following...?".

    The reason I asked is that Daniel Wallace had written point blank that 1 John 2:23b is not in the Received Text editions used by the...
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    awaiting OP tweaks and adjustments

    Hi,

    Carpenter, I look forward to you continuation after you digest the factual correction! :)

    And I answered the questions that still had some relevance after the correction.


    A source...
  16. the support of which ὅ as the alternative to the pure Bible text "God was manifest.."

    Hi,

    Three additional supporters of ὅ:

    Gilbert Wakefield - (1756-1801) - Translation of the New Testament 1791, 1795

    Johannes Schulthess - (1763-1836) ref by Heinrich Kölling, Der erste...
  17. iron sharpeneth

    Hi,

    And I will point out that sharing more details about an individual unnamed with a mod or admin is totally appropriate. The mod or admin are then welcome to ask for more information, if they...
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    Beza's 1582 and later editions has the proper text of 1 John 2:23b

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    Just to make this clearer (although I doubt there was any difficulty for Carpenter.)

    The "based on" information was wrong, there was a principle GNT source used by the learned men of the...
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    Moses Stuart on the omission of the Greek definite article

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    Moses Stuart (1780-1852) wrote a lot of solid analysis on the definite article relating to the theories of the Granville Sharp rule. This is from the early years when the analysis was...
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    Colinaeus, Beza and 1 John 2:23b

    Hi,

    1 John 2:23
    Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
    (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

    Carpenter, it is a good question, however you are wrong...
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    hmmm to hymn

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    There is no actual evidence that there was a hymn, or hymn fragment, or liturgy, or confession, or poem, that provided any text without attribution for Paul's writing. Not in Colossians, nor...
  22. Griesbach, the first supporter of ὅς in 1 Timothy 3:16

    Hi,

    Emphasis added:

    Humorously, this was attacked on the censored BVDB forum, on a thread called "Erasmus and 1 Timothy 3:16". (The thread can be found with words in quotes in a google...
  23. Acts 8:10 - "clear illustration" of constructio ad sensum?

    Hi,

    Acts 8:9-10
    But there was a certain man, called Simon,
    which beforetime in the same city used sorcery,
    and bewitched the people of Samaria,
    giving out that himself was some great one:
    ...
  24. Did I really need to write "tongue-in-cheek...

    Did I really need to write "tongue-in-cheek sarcasm alert"?
  25. Hi, Wow, what an original argument! A...

    Hi,

    Wow, what an original argument!

    A printing error in 1611! Amazing!
    Now I should not believe my Bible is the pure word of God!?

    Steven
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