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    Actually they don't. The three I claimed that do...

    Actually they don't. The three I claimed that do go like this:


    I, Nephi, having been born of goodly parents, therefore I was taught somewhat in all the learning of my father; and having seen...
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    I raised all points in connection to Oaks'...

    I raised all points in connection to Oaks' address... so your assertion comes across as, well, a confused one.



    I don't recall talking here about my views on any of those books/topics, at least...
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    Alright. There are points of agreement and...

    Alright. There are points of agreement and disagreement. I am in agreement with Oaks' critique of scholars like Bokovoy that it makes little sense to call into question the historicity of writings...
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    Thanks... I briefly skimmed the address...

    Thanks... I briefly skimmed the address yesterday. Was there something specific you wanted me to respond to? I think we pretty much know where we each stand on this issue of critical scholarship and...
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    Your denial of any connection between the Book of...

    Your denial of any connection between the Book of Abraham and the extant papyri is directly related to your assumption that connection be narrowly defined as a proper translation, which assumption...
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    And round and round we go... :rolleyes: Kind...

    And round and round we go... :rolleyes:

    Kind regards,
    Jonathan
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    Thanks for the feedback... my publishing...

    Thanks for the feedback... my publishing endeavors, however, don't include rebutting LDS apologists --- I have far more important publishing projects on the go. This was just a bit of Sunday fun......
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    That much is true, inasmuch as the Book of...

    That much is true, inasmuch as the Book of Abraham is a fraudulent attempt by Joseph Smith at translating the Egyptian funerary texts to which those extant papyri witness.



    You were given...
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    Yes... I'll share a few excerpts from Bokovoy's...

    Yes... I'll share a few excerpts from Bokovoy's recently published book. He makes note of a change in the 2013 introduction to the Book of Abraham:


    The previous description of the Book of...
  10. Yes... suspended in order to keep their property...

    Yes... suspended in order to keep their property and themselves out of jail -- that is, for self-serving reasons and not because it is/was viewed as morally problematic and was, as practised by early...
  11. I'm glad to hear there is some help out there for...

    I'm glad to hear there is some help out there for the present victims of patriarchal and polygynous practices associated with "Mormon" movements. While contemporary Latter-day Saints can always point...
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    I will repost, word for word, what I offered last...

    I will repost, word for word, what I offered last time you asked this question and I answered it here:

    Are you actually disputing with your own scholars that the extant Joseph Smith papyri come...
  13. I appreciate the acknowledgment, inherent in the...

    I appreciate the acknowledgment, inherent in the content of this thread but often forgotten in discussions on the topic, that females are not the only victims of patriarchy and the kind of polygyny...
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    Good to know. I've never had to correct a thread...

    Good to know. I've never had to correct a thread title before and all the post titles I've corrected, on the rare occasion I use them, have been within a few seconds of posting... kinda the first...
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    I can't speak to or for the goal(s) of those who...

    I can't speak to or for the goal(s) of those who run CARM (though they can be found here), but it is simply not the case that no one here is interested in (courteous) debate... that is precisely why...
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    Whatever "new" format you're using, there should...

    Whatever "new" format you're using, there should be a way to go back to what you were using before. I notice that in at least one other thread all your replies are coming up under the thread header...
  17. Hmm... that screen name doesn't sound familiar...

    Hmm... that screen name doesn't sound familiar either. I took a couple years off from posting to concentrate on my school (2009-2011), but otherwise I've been posting regular to semi-regular here...
  18. Mudcat! :) I don't think I've ever seen you post...

    Mudcat! :) I don't think I've ever seen you post here. What brings you 'round to these here parts?

    Kind regards,
    Jonathan
  19. Then I shall provide that of Anne-Marie McAlinden...

    Then I shall provide that of Anne-Marie McAlinden who, in her recent monograph on the subject, provides a definition that she claims "better captures the complexity of the process and the multiple...
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    I made no such assumption... and your penchant...

    I made no such assumption... and your penchant for ignoring questions continues.

    Kind regards,
    Jonathan
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    First of all, Jesus' name wasn't a secret to any...

    First of all, Jesus' name wasn't a secret to any of his Galilean or Judean contemporaries, those with murderous intentions or otherwise. Second, to what dubious historical reconstruction are you...
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    Because the one making the claim shoulders the...

    Because the one making the claim shoulders the burden of proof.



    Either one (to start) or both.

    Kind regards,
    Jonathan
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    So am I to gather from this that the Book of...

    So am I to gather from this that the Book of Mormon is as vague about the religious practices of the Nephites as you're being in your answer? However "corrupt" you might think the texts we have...
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    Is the Book of Mormon not, primarily, supposed to...

    Is the Book of Mormon not, primarily, supposed to be a later abridgment of records kept by a group of Israelites who traveled to the Americas in the early part of the 6th century BCE? Assuming the...
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    And still no answer to the original question! How...

    And still no answer to the original question! How did "the Jews" worship in late 7th century BCE Judah and what evidence can you point to in the Book of Mormon that would suggest those who allegedly...
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