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    One has to be able to understand what the...

    One has to be able to understand what the question is before he can answer it however and I am sorry but your posts don't make sense to me most of the time and it is hard to understand what you are...
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    If I could make a friendly suggestion, the fish...

    If I could make a friendly suggestion, the fish are biting in the lakes, streams and oceans and just waiting for you to catch them.

    Maybe you will fair better at that than you do here with your...
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    No one is debating the fact that the spirit of...

    No one is debating the fact that the spirit of the saint leaves the body at death John, what we are debating is that the spirit although not destroyed, is not alive until the resurrection were it is...
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    As belonging to God's own nature still, yes the...

    As belonging to God's own nature still, yes the Word still belongs to God's being and it will never cease to be God when being a facet of his own being.

    But when it became flesh, in Christ it...
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    Nobody is denying that the Word was God, but the...

    Nobody is denying that the Word was God, but the question is, what was the word when it became flesh? Doesn't the very statement tell you swordsman?

    I will bet that you never noticed this, but...
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    Do spirits without bodies actually wear robes TW?...

    Do spirits without bodies actually wear robes TW?

    For one thing I never said that they were none existent did I TW?

    I only said that they are not alive in any conscious sense of what being...
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    First off, Revelation 6:9 is figurative and...

    First off, Revelation 6:9 is figurative and cannot be used as a proof text for your idea on this.

    For starters Revelation is highly prophetic and John was seeing these souls crying out while...
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    Tell that to all of your obnoxious trin friends...

    Tell that to all of your obnoxious trin friends then dude, it would appear that I have been posting here longer than you and so I have seen more than you have or something.

    I remember my very...
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    Our feelings exactly about your trinity doctrine,...

    Our feelings exactly about your trinity doctrine, for surely I have shown much more support for my views here than what you have available unto you from the Bible concerning the trinity. The trinity...
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    Why don't you try this for a change Swordsman,...

    Why don't you try this for a change Swordsman, "the Word was made flesh" = THE WORD BECAME TOTALLY OBSERVED AND OBEYED WITHIN THE FLESH MAN JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD.

    Thus "The Word Made Flesh...
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    So then, the Apostles and prophets condemned your...

    So then, the Apostles and prophets condemned your false god along with all others and the early church that you are referring to having already fallen into the apostasy that Paul spoke of, accepted...
  12. I thought everyone knew by now that this...

    I thought everyone knew by now that this particular verse is not in the most dependable manuscripts.

    Just try and find it in the other reliable translations and that ought to tell you something...
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    When did the early church take the place of the...

    When did the early church take the place of the inspired word of God civic?

    You never pay a bit of attention to where you are putting your trust do you civic?


    Joseph
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    Here is what you posted that I was answering to...

    Here is what you posted that I was answering to and suppose you tell me why my questions and what I said was not associated to what the subject was?



    That is just another one of your excuses...
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    Yes I know, you said it right, for your trinity...

    Yes I know, you said it right, for your trinity only amounts to unsupported opinions of the carnally minded men who developed it and those like you who also believe it.

    Thank you for putting the...
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    Why does he have to tell them to worship the Son...

    Why does he have to tell them to worship the Son however James, don't the angels know that the Son is God? This in itself is what I mean on it depending upon the context, for the word for worship...
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    It's all in the Bible just like you say your...

    It's all in the Bible just like you say your trinity view is also.

    So then, tell you what I am gonna do, you show me a chapter and verse that specifically teaches your trinity and I will effort...
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    That is right, the Logos became flesh or came...

    That is right, the Logos became flesh or came into being as flesh or had its beginning and didn't just join itself to flesh like what you believe about it.[/Quote]


    In other words, it was the...
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    I wasn't presenting an argument however but...

    I wasn't presenting an argument however but directing questions unto you that you simply don't wan't to answer on the grounds that it might discredit your own argument. Look at my post again TW, now...
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    That is because no spirit has expired yet in the...

    That is because no spirit has expired yet in the sense of it being nonexistent, but the spirits of the wicked will be when after they are joined by their resurrected mortal bodies they are judged by...
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    Except for being tempted the same way that a man...

    Except for being tempted the same way that a man is right TW? Except for really having to trust God because he is God and has the power of God available at this command to overcome any obstacle right...
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    That is because the context and who it is...

    That is because the context and who it is speaking about determines the depth of its intended meaning, but only YHWH God is worshiped as the Only True God.


    Joseph
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    John 1:14 "and the Logos was made flesh" Notice,...

    John 1:14 "and the Logos was made flesh" Notice, it doesn't say, "and the Logos took also unto itself or himself flesh but rather it was made flesh and this is the same exact construction of words...
  24. I didn't ask you if Jesus had blood flowing...

    I didn't ask you if Jesus had blood flowing through his veins after he was born, for I am the one who believes that Jesus is a sinless man in the exact image of God unlike you who believe that he is...
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    Ah, but one who believes that someone can be...

    Ah, but one who believes that someone can be begotten in eternity is slower than those who he thinks are slow and so how do you think that you gong to break it down for those that you call slow John?...
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