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  1. No, but actually just the opposite as what you...

    No, but actually just the opposite as what you think that you are seeing PY, for there have been some here that argued with me that the word "all" in John 16:15 means all in every single way, and...
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    Because Jesus was not implying that TKN, but you...

    Because Jesus was not implying that TKN, but you and they also believed that he was and there is a big, big difference therefore between what you and they believed him to be implying and what he was...
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    What I am saying is this Thom, even if Adam had...

    What I am saying is this Thom, even if Adam had obeyed God and not sinned, then we would have obeyed God also because he is the pattern that we all were born from, so if he would sin, God also knew...
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    Agreed totally and good rebuttal on this point...

    Agreed totally and good rebuttal on this point F4T and thanks for coming in with it.

    Joseph
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    I know exactly what you are doing and what you...

    I know exactly what you are doing and what you are asking and why you are asking it Tom, but I have already told you and I am not going to tell you again, so unless you have another question, then I...
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    You certainly did with your Trinity Doctrine...

    You certainly did with your Trinity Doctrine because there is not one single chapter devoted to the teaching of it within the the whole of the Bible and it was most definitely derived from taking...
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    Oh yes it most certainly does PY and to be...

    Oh yes it most certainly does PY and to be truthful about it, at this present time all of us are somewhat carnal, because we have lost touch with how to receive correctly from God and our former...
  8. Whenever God is in view, all things belong unto...

    Whenever God is in view, all things belong unto him and he is in power over all things and all people and so God who Jesus called the Father is greater than all including Jesus but in the passage of...
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    The rod of Christ power was what God gave unto...

    The rod of Christ power was what God gave unto him and it actually parallels both Moses rod and also Aaron's rod as types and both their authority and power came not from themselves but from God who...
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    Go read 1 Corinthians 1-3 again PY, why do you...

    Go read 1 Corinthians 1-3 again PY, why do you think that Paul spends so much time speaking about the carnal mind and the wisdom of this world in and why the spiritual man appraises all things by the...
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    That is what happens sometime with the opium of...

    That is what happens sometime with the opium of religion, for many people are held in many a cult by the feelings that they get from that cult experience and today's corrupt version of Christianity...
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    God's patience doesn't depend upon whether some...

    God's patience doesn't depend upon whether some one can or cannot any longer receive the truth from him, for God isn't actually the one responsible for this, but rather the person who will...
  13. Question for the Trinitarians, concerning John 10:29

    Tell me Trinitarians, does the word "all" that is used here in "My Father which gave them me is greater than all", truly mean all?

    Is it meaning all including Jesus or excluding him?

    How...
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    Manifested his glory as the one who was sent by...

    Manifested his glory as the one who was sent by God to be the Messiah Jack and not God himself, and in one place someone also said, "when the Messiah comes will he do greater works than this man"?
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    They under him to be saying what they wanted him...

    They under him to be saying what they wanted him to be saying and the same exact thing that you also believe that he was saying and that is that he was literally existing before Abraham but this is...
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    The same exact delusion that God has sent unto...

    The same exact delusion that God has sent unto you to believe also Tom, but the context does not bear this up at all because Jesus was never speaking of a pre-existence whereupon he saw Abraham, but...
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    OK PY and thank you for letting every one know...

    OK PY and thank you for letting every one know about your justification on these matters!

    By By PY
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    They most certainly did not understand him as...

    They most certainly did not understand him as saying that he was God by being one with him here James and he gave them a hint about this in verse 32 when He flatly told them that the works that he...
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    At that point Tom, I don't think that God himself...

    At that point Tom, I don't think that God himself wanted them to know anymore, for why would you want to give what is holy to the dogs or cast you pearls before swine and dogs and swine were exactly...
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    So then, you think that this excuses you for...

    So then, you think that this excuses you for being divided on these issues huh PY?

    Well then, I think that you better go and read 1 Corinthians 1-3 once again, because I didn't see that their...
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    He wasn't however saying he was God in what he...

    He wasn't however saying he was God in what he said but just that in God's chronology, Jesus was in his present day, before Abraham was in his present day and because it was God's will that they...
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    I will remember your words every time I see you...

    I will remember your words every time I see you arguing among others who believe in your Trin and Jesus is God doctrines over in Eschatology and the Calvinism forums and everywhere else that you...
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    No, what I am saying is that they wanted him to...

    No, what I am saying is that they wanted him to be saying something that he was not saying and therefore he left his answer unto them in confusion without explanation also because they loved not the...
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    James, nobody is saying that they didn't hear...

    James, nobody is saying that they didn't hear what Jesus was saying actually but rather that they understood it wrongly and I will give you an example from John 8.

    Jesus said this, "Your Father...
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    I wouldn't take much stock in anything that most...

    I wouldn't take much stock in anything that most Trinitarians would say and especially not one who comes from the Mother of all of them.

    Joseph
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