Lordship salvation is essentially true, though not explained that well.
Originally Posted by countitjoy5
There are two big problems every unsaved person has that need to be rectified: one of a bad nature, and one of a bad record.
- Bad trees produce bad fruit. It takes regeneration to turn a bad tree into a good tree so that they serve God. This deals to the bad nature.
- Bad people also have a bad record with God. It takes justification to change their legal standing before God from guilty to just, or righteous. This deals to the bad record.
If a person is both regenerated and justified, then they are saved and serve God as Lord: Lordship Salvation.
- If a person was regenerated only, they'd have Lordship but not Salvation; they'd still be legally guilty and wind up in hell, despite walking in righteousness.
- If a person was justified only, they'd have "Salvation" but not Lordship; they'd walk into heaven and carry on sinning.
God never does just one or the either; it's both or neither. This is because in Christ's death was the death of our old nature, as well as the punishment for our sin.
God regenerates a predetermined "elect" number of people who are exposed to the gospel, and they then believe it and are justified by faith, as well as going on to do good works by virtue of their new nature.
The big problem with Ray Comfort, despite being generally excellent, is that he denies the necessity of regeneration per God's election to bring a person into a state where they would subsequently have faith and be justified, in favour of asserting that salvation is "possible" for all people.
This goes against the Bible's teaching that regeneration -- and therefore subsequent justification by faith -- is not by human decision or will. Justification is by faith; regeneration is not; it's purely by God's grace and election, which is detailed in Romans 9.
Last edited by wiremu.white; 04-16-12 at 12:01 AM.