I do not hold to a pretribulational rapture view. If you're going to put stuff in a post that is like it is a reply to me, then be factual about it. Isn't that yet another personal attack against me?
Lots of people in here are crying about personal attacks who attack me incessantly.
I am embarrassed for folk who misread and misapply John Chapter three and call water baptism the new birth. Nicodemus didn't know what would lie ahead for Christ. Christ may as well have been talking to tree if the conversation meant what you say it does. Christ merely compared the physical birth to the birth that really matters, the spiritual birth. Nicodemus was an ignorant man and Christ so much as told him so. (Maybe somebody will report me for making a personal attack on Nicodemus.)
When Jesus sat with His disciples at the last supper and confirmed the new covenant with them, were these men Jews or not?
Mark 14:23 And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, and they all drank of it.
Mark 14:24 And he said to them, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.
Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me."
Luke 22:20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.
John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.
John 13:35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another."