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  • Hades' Population Clock

    According to Jesus Christ as a credible expert witness in all matters pertaining to the afterlife; the majority of the world's responsible souls haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.

    Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

    Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

    Webster's defines "many" as consisting of, or amounting to, a large but indefinite number; while "few" is defined as consisting of, or amounting to, only a small number; viz: relative to many then, few is the lesser. Bear with me while I flesh this out.

    According to the US Census Bureau: as of Jan 14, 2020 @ 08:40 am New York Time, the United States population was approximately 329,179,430 with a death rate on average of one every 10 seconds; which translates to roughly 8,640 American deaths of all ages, races, and genders during just one 24-hour calendar day.

    According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths are under the age of 19, which would indicate that approximately 6,281 of the current daily death rate per 24 hours are adults.

    Giving the "many" the benefit of the doubt by limiting their maximum percentage to 51%, would indicate a minimum of 3,203 American adults transferring to perdition every day: which translates to roughly 133 per hour.

    That's a conservative estimate as Christ didn't really specify exact percentages to represent the quantities of "few" and "many". But just think: by the time CBS completes its half hour evening news report, a bare-bones minimum of 66 Americans become new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld.

    Using the ratio of 3,203 condemned souls per 329,179,430 population: extrapolating the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently estimated global population of 7,623,841,216 people, would suggest something like 74,182 new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld every 24 hours; which translates to approximately 3,091 global arrivals every sixty minutes on the clock.

    That rate would fill Yankee Stadium's 51,800 seats to capacity in roughly 16 hours and 30 minutes. In other words: if the world's daily number of condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this morning, then by 10:30 pm tonight, the stadium would be full to capacity.

    Christmas and New Year are even worse. A study done of 26 years of death certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9% higher on those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths spiking to 12.2% higher.

    The hades I'm describing never closes; no, not at all: it's open for business 24/7/365 nonstop and indifferent to global warming, Wall Street crashes, massive layoffs, outsourcing, tariffs, school shootings, terrorism, tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes, storm surges, nuclear meltdowns, air, water, and soil pollution, a mission to Mars, freeway pile-ups, brown-outs, threatened species, the price of oil, drug cartels, LGBT marriage, student debt, GMO, trade deficits, Obamacare, protests, North Korean nukes, Federal debt, factory recalls, overpopulation, desertification, genocides, revolutions, civil wars, acid rain, road rage, oil spills, conscious decoupling, ISIS, blood diamonds, fracking, twerking, and/or President Donald Trump's tweets.

    If classical Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is correct; then it's apparent that people never stop cascading into the netherworld's dungeons in an endless procession like the unbelievable millions of poultry broilers passing annually through Tyson chicken-processing plants on their way to Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in the Box, Burger King, Chic-fil-A, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen, Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering and the butchering never stop.
    Last edited by Dant01; 01-14-2020, 01:59 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Dant01 View Post
    [SIZE=14px][FONT=verdana] If classical Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is correct; then it's apparent that people never stop cascading into the netherworld's dungeons in an endless procession
    And I have no reason to believe that "Classical Christianity" is in error.

    Which illustrates the importance of Evangelism.


    • #3
      Through me; the way to the eternal city.
      Through me; the way to eternal sadness.
      Through me; the way to lost people.

      Justice moved my supreme maker:
      I was shaped by divine power,
      By highest wisdom, and by primal love.

      Before me, nothing was created
      That is not eternal: and eternally I endure.
      Abandon all hope, you that enter here.

      The Divine Comedy
      Dante Alighieri
      Inferno: canto 3, v.1-9

      Dante's poetic epic is called a comedy because it has a happy ending as opposed to a tragedy; at least for Dante anyway. The souls he and Virgil pass along the way through the Inferno portion of Dante's odyssey will never, nor anon, have a happy ending; hence the sign above the entrance to his netherworld: "Abandon all hope, you that enter here."

      Webster's defines "despair' as: to no longer have any hope or belief that a situation will improve or change. Well; down in the Inferno section of Dante's concept, despair is a way of life.

      One of the hardest concepts to get across is the despair that people in Hades must feel in knowing that their situation is a sealed fate with no hope of relief. Dante's odyssey, though of course fiction, is useful for that purpose; especially when it's accompanied by illustrations painted by Gustave Doré.

      Jesus warned people that they'd be better off facing eternity with their hands and their feet amputated, and their eyes gouged out, then to end up in a hell known in New Testament Greek as geena; a much worse place than Hades. So in my estimation, Dante's descriptions, and Gustave's paintings, though disturbing enough in themselves, aren't sufficient to impress just how unfortunate the sum of all fears really is.

      POP CLOCK UPDATE: 2 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 148,364 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.
      Last edited by Dant01; 01-18-2020, 02:31 PM.


      • #4
        People have been filtering into perdition not only since the time of Christ, but since before the Step Pyramid of Djoser, and even before the Flood. I won't speculate how many years that might be, but h.sapiens is thought by some to have achieved full behavioral modernity something like 50,000 years ago. (There's new findings suggesting that human existence goes as far back as 150-300,000 years) Anyway; whether that extends clear on back to Adam and Eve I have no clue; but just think: if it does, then Cain and others from his era have been down in the netherworld all this time.

        It's difficult for the human mind to appreciate 50,000 years let alone 300,000. I've been on the Earth for just 76, and I've noticed that my childhood is so far in the past to me now as to seem more like a fantasy than a memory. But you know; when you're talking about eternity, 50,000 years isn't even a drop in the bucket. If it were a drop in the bucket, it would be a bucket with no bottom; which is roughly akin to the futility of a gnat attempting to drink up the Atlantic ocean in one sip.

        But just think: time stands still in Hades: it's for the now; it's an existence. People who arrived there yesterday didn't begin doing time in jail like Lindsay Lohan expecting to get out some day; nor is perdition a temporary tour of duty like shipping out to Afghanistan. No, people in Hades are in it as perpetual residents; they're in a rut.

        They go year, after year, after year, after year, with no relief from the discomfort: no vacations, no recreation, no reading materials, and no hobbies-- there's absolutely nothing to do but reminisce. The mental atrophy, and the boredom that must result from that kind of mindless existence is beyond estimation.

        In life, everybody enjoys God's blessings; even the really bad people. We're all breathing fresh air, basking in sunshine, drinking cool water, savoring tasty foods, listening to birds chirp, star gazing at night, throwing snow balls at each other in winter, river rafting, fishing, snow skiing, tending gardens, pruning shrubs, greeting friends during the holidays, spending days with grandkids; and all that sort of thing. In Hades, there are no blessings of any kind at all: only perpetual sadness, vexation, despair, and want.

        In Hades' unruly society; it's reasonable to expect quarrels, bickering, hard feelings, vendettas, rivalry, selfishness, insensitivity, irritation, aggravation, and ugly words exchanged between people. Is there really any good reason to be courteous and/or respect your fellow man's human rights in the Bible's hades; or to be kind, forgiving, affable, genial, courteous, cordial, charitable, altruistic, tolerant, generous, and patient? I was once discussing the netherworld with a co-worker and he remarked: "Hades won't be so bad; I'll have plenty of friends down there". Yes, he probably will have lots of friends in Hades; but I really don't think he should count on them being friendly.

        And the din: think of the volume of noise down there with all the wailing and sobbing, and the screams, shrieks, yelps, howls, and gnashing teeth. I can only imagine how annoying it must be in Hades with its thousands and millions of people making all that kind of racket.

        But just imagine bringing with you a craving for tobacco with none available. Or longing for a cocktail with no liquor in sight. A desire for music, with no way to produce it. A skill for writing, with no pen and paper. Yearning for a walk out in nature, with no world to do it in.

        People in Hades will never again smell a sea breeze, sit in the shade of a tree, take deep breaths of mountain-fresh air, play at sports, hear a bird chirp, see a sunset, watch a lunar eclipse, jog in the park, strum a guitar, enjoy a Christmas dinner with loved ones; nor make little pigs of themselves gobbling barbecued spare ribs and corn on the 4th of July.

        Sports and recreation are gone: no more World Series, no more Super Bowl, no more Olympics, no more Las Vegas, no more Indian casinos, no more lottery, no more Lego World, no more Sea World, no more NASCAR, no more golf, no more surfing, et al.

        No baths, no showers, no sleep, no TV, no radio, no iPods, no computers, no Twitter, no texting, no FaceBook, no Instagram, no YouTube, no MySpace, no internet, no clean sheets, no breakfast, no lunch, and no dinner. No snacks, no gum, no candy, no flowers, no parks, no rivers, no snow, no seasons, no picnics, no malls, no fast food, no trades, no careers, no trendy fashions, no jewelry, no cosmetics, no concerts, no operas, and no hobbies; absolutely nothing of this world that brings people the pleasures and the satisfactions of just being alive.

        POP CLOCK UPDATE: 4 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 296,728 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.
        Last edited by Dant01; 01-18-2020, 02:34 PM.


        • #5
          Ps 146:3-4 . . Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

          Some people honestly believe the passage above teaches that people cease to exist when they pass away; but were their belief true, then Christ would've ceased to exist when he passed away on the cross and in order to restore the Lord's body back to life, it would've been necessary to create his soul back to existence. No; I'm pretty sure it's saying something very different. Here's a much better way to say it.

          "When their breathing stops, they return to the earth, and in a moment all their plans come to an end."

          Consider all those people who perished in the World Trade Center, in the Japan and Indonesia tsunamis, and the Haiti earthquake. None of them woke that day planning on it being their last on earth. No, on the contrary; they had people to see, places to go, and things to do: but before the day ended; whatever was on their minds lost its importance-- their priorities went right out the window and became no more significant than green cheese on the moon.

          All their plans, their dreams, their schedules, their appointments, their schemes, their problems, their aspirations, and their loves went right down the tubes as they were suddenly confronted with a whole new reality to cope with.

          While preparing for a new world tour, Michael Jackson died in his sleep. As a result; his tour wrapped on the spot.

          When my eldest nephew was paroled from prison; he quit drinking, and began going to college with the goal towards becoming a counselor. For 2½ years all went well. His parole officer was happy, and my nephew was on track and getting good grades. His future looked assured. And then on the morning of Sept 25, 2015, he dropped dead to the floor of natural causes. As a result; his college education, and his hope to become a counselor, dropped dead to the floor right with him.

          POP CLOCK UPDATE: 6 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 445,092 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.


          • #6
            Here in America, even the worst among the worst have the right to a lawyer, and if they can't afford one, the system will appoint a public defender for them.

            But in hades; people are abandoned. For example: the names of Abraham and Lazarus are given in Luke 16:19-31, but the rich man's name isn't given. He's a forgotten man; but not me.

            Rom 8:33-34 . . Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus who died? More than that, who was raised to life; who is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us?

            Thanks to Christ, I won't have to stand before God alone; but that nameless rich man? He will.

            POP CLOCK UPDATE: 8 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 593,456 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.