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  • Hades' Population Clock

    According to Jesus Christ as a credible expert witness in all matters pertaining to the afterlife; the majority of the world's responsible souls haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.

    Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

    Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

    Webster's defines "many" as consisting of, or amounting to, a large but indefinite number; while "few" is defined as consisting of, or amounting to, only a small number; viz: relative to many then, few is the lesser. Bear with me while I flesh this out.

    According to the US Census Bureau: as of Jan 14, 2020 @ 08:40 am New York Time, the United States population was approximately 329,179,430 with a death rate on average of one every 10 seconds; which translates to roughly 8,640 American deaths of all ages, races, and genders during just one 24-hour calendar day.

    According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths are under the age of 19, which would indicate that approximately 6,281 of the current daily death rate per 24 hours are adults.

    Giving the "many" the benefit of the doubt by limiting their maximum percentage to 51%, would indicate a minimum of 3,203 American adults transferring to perdition every day: which translates to roughly 133 per hour.

    That's a conservative estimate as Christ didn't really specify exact percentages to represent the quantities of "few" and "many". But just think: by the time CBS completes its half hour evening news report, a bare-bones minimum of 66 Americans become new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld.

    Using the ratio of 3,203 condemned souls per 329,179,430 population: extrapolating the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently estimated global population of 7,623,841,216 people, would suggest something like 74,182 new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld every 24 hours; which translates to approximately 3,091 global arrivals every sixty minutes on the clock.

    That rate would fill Yankee Stadium's 51,800 seats to capacity in roughly 16 hours and 30 minutes. In other words: if the world's daily number of condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this morning, then by 10:30 pm tonight, the stadium would be full to capacity.

    Christmas and New Year are even worse. A study done of 26 years of death certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9% higher on those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths spiking to 12.2% higher.

    The hades I'm describing never closes; no, not at all: it's open for business 24/7/365 nonstop and indifferent to global warming, Wall Street crashes, massive layoffs, outsourcing, tariffs, school shootings, terrorism, tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes, storm surges, nuclear meltdowns, air, water, and soil pollution, a mission to Mars, freeway pile-ups, brown-outs, threatened species, the price of oil, drug cartels, LGBT marriage, student debt, GMO, trade deficits, Obamacare, protests, North Korean nukes, Federal debt, factory recalls, overpopulation, desertification, genocides, revolutions, civil wars, acid rain, road rage, oil spills, conscious decoupling, ISIS, blood diamonds, fracking, twerking, and/or President Donald Trump's tweets.

    If classical Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is correct; then it's apparent that people never stop cascading into the netherworld's dungeons in an endless procession like the unbelievable millions of poultry broilers passing annually through Tyson chicken-processing plants on their way to Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in the Box, Burger King, Chic-fil-A, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen, Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering and the butchering never stop.
    Last edited by Dant01; 01-14-2020, 01:59 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Dant01 View Post
    [SIZE=14px][FONT=verdana] If classical Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is correct; then it's apparent that people never stop cascading into the netherworld's dungeons in an endless procession
    And I have no reason to believe that "Classical Christianity" is in error.

    Which illustrates the importance of Evangelism.


    • #3
      Through me; the way to the eternal city.
      Through me; the way to eternal sadness.
      Through me; the way to lost people.

      Justice moved my supreme maker:
      I was shaped by divine power,
      By highest wisdom, and by primal love.

      Before me, nothing was created
      That is not eternal: and eternally I endure.
      Abandon all hope, you that enter here.

      The Divine Comedy
      Dante Alighieri
      Inferno: canto 3, v.1-9

      Dante's poetic epic is called a comedy because it has a happy ending as opposed to a tragedy; at least for Dante anyway. The souls he and Virgil pass along the way through the Inferno portion of Dante's odyssey will never, nor anon, have a happy ending; hence the sign above the entrance to his netherworld: "Abandon all hope, you that enter here."

      Webster's defines "despair' as: to no longer have any hope or belief that a situation will improve or change. Well; down in the Inferno section of Dante's concept, despair is a way of life.

      One of the hardest concepts to get across is the despair that people in Hades must feel in knowing that their situation is a sealed fate with no hope of relief. Dante's odyssey, though of course fiction, is useful for that purpose; especially when it's accompanied by illustrations painted by Gustave Doré.

      Jesus warned people that they'd be better off facing eternity with their hands and their feet amputated, and their eyes gouged out, then to end up in a hell known in New Testament Greek as geena; a much worse place than Hades. So in my estimation, Dante's descriptions, and Gustave's paintings, though disturbing enough in themselves, aren't sufficient to impress just how unfortunate the sum of all fears really is.

      POP CLOCK UPDATE: 2 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 148,364 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.
      Last edited by Dant01; 01-18-2020, 02:31 PM.


      • #4
        People have been filtering into perdition not only since the time of Christ, but since before the Step Pyramid of Djoser, and even before the Flood. I won't speculate how many years that might be, but h.sapiens is thought by some to have achieved full behavioral modernity something like 50,000 years ago. (There's new findings suggesting that human existence goes as far back as 150-300,000 years) Anyway; whether that extends clear on back to Adam and Eve I have no clue; but just think: if it does, then Cain and others from his era have been down in the netherworld all this time.

        It's difficult for the human mind to appreciate 50,000 years let alone 300,000. I've been on the Earth for just 76, and I've noticed that my childhood is so far in the past to me now as to seem more like a fantasy than a memory. But you know; when you're talking about eternity, 50,000 years isn't even a drop in the bucket. If it were a drop in the bucket, it would be a bucket with no bottom; which is roughly akin to the futility of a gnat attempting to drink up the Atlantic ocean in one sip.

        But just think: time stands still in Hades: it's for the now; it's an existence. People who arrived there yesterday didn't begin doing time in jail like Lindsay Lohan expecting to get out some day; nor is perdition a temporary tour of duty like shipping out to Afghanistan. No, people in Hades are in it as perpetual residents; they're in a rut.

        They go year, after year, after year, after year, with no relief from the discomfort: no vacations, no recreation, no reading materials, and no hobbies-- there's absolutely nothing to do but reminisce. The mental atrophy, and the boredom that must result from that kind of mindless existence is beyond estimation.

        In life, everybody enjoys God's blessings; even the really bad people. We're all breathing fresh air, basking in sunshine, drinking cool water, savoring tasty foods, listening to birds chirp, star gazing at night, throwing snow balls at each other in winter, river rafting, fishing, snow skiing, tending gardens, pruning shrubs, greeting friends during the holidays, spending days with grandkids; and all that sort of thing. In Hades, there are no blessings of any kind at all: only perpetual sadness, vexation, despair, and want.

        In Hades' unruly society; it's reasonable to expect quarrels, bickering, hard feelings, vendettas, rivalry, selfishness, insensitivity, irritation, aggravation, and ugly words exchanged between people. Is there really any good reason to be courteous and/or respect your fellow man's human rights in the Bible's hades; or to be kind, forgiving, affable, genial, courteous, cordial, charitable, altruistic, tolerant, generous, and patient? I was once discussing the netherworld with a co-worker and he remarked: "Hades won't be so bad; I'll have plenty of friends down there". Yes, he probably will have lots of friends in Hades; but I really don't think he should count on them being friendly.

        And the din: think of the volume of noise down there with all the wailing and sobbing, and the screams, shrieks, yelps, howls, and gnashing teeth. I can only imagine how annoying it must be in Hades with its thousands and millions of people making all that kind of racket.

        But just imagine bringing with you a craving for tobacco with none available. Or longing for a cocktail with no liquor in sight. A desire for music, with no way to produce it. A skill for writing, with no pen and paper. Yearning for a walk out in nature, with no world to do it in.

        People in Hades will never again smell a sea breeze, sit in the shade of a tree, take deep breaths of mountain-fresh air, play at sports, hear a bird chirp, see a sunset, watch a lunar eclipse, jog in the park, strum a guitar, enjoy a Christmas dinner with loved ones; nor make little pigs of themselves gobbling barbecued spare ribs and corn on the 4th of July.

        Sports and recreation are gone: no more World Series, no more Super Bowl, no more Olympics, no more Las Vegas, no more Indian casinos, no more lottery, no more Lego World, no more Sea World, no more NASCAR, no more golf, no more surfing, et al.

        No baths, no showers, no sleep, no TV, no radio, no iPods, no computers, no Twitter, no texting, no FaceBook, no Instagram, no YouTube, no MySpace, no internet, no clean sheets, no breakfast, no lunch, and no dinner. No snacks, no gum, no candy, no flowers, no parks, no rivers, no snow, no seasons, no picnics, no malls, no fast food, no trades, no careers, no trendy fashions, no jewelry, no cosmetics, no concerts, no operas, and no hobbies; absolutely nothing of this world that brings people the pleasures and the satisfactions of just being alive.

        POP CLOCK UPDATE: 4 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 296,728 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.
        Last edited by Dant01; 01-18-2020, 02:34 PM.


        • #5
          Ps 146:3-4 . . Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

          Some people honestly believe the passage above teaches that people cease to exist when they pass away; but were their belief true, then Christ would've ceased to exist when he passed away on the cross and in order to restore the Lord's body back to life, it would've been necessary to create his soul back to existence. No; I'm pretty sure it's saying something very different. Here's a much better way to say it.

          "When their breathing stops, they return to the earth, and in a moment all their plans come to an end."

          Consider all those people who perished in the World Trade Center, in the Japan and Indonesia tsunamis, and the Haiti earthquake. None of them woke that day planning on it being their last on earth. No, on the contrary; they had people to see, places to go, and things to do: but before the day ended; whatever was on their minds lost its importance-- their priorities went right out the window and became no more significant than green cheese on the moon.

          All their plans, their dreams, their schedules, their appointments, their schemes, their problems, their aspirations, and their loves went right down the tubes as they were suddenly confronted with a whole new reality to cope with.

          While preparing for a new world tour, Michael Jackson died in his sleep. As a result; his tour wrapped on the spot.

          When my eldest nephew was paroled from prison; he quit drinking, and began going to college with the goal towards becoming a counselor. For 2½ years all went well. His parole officer was happy, and my nephew was on track and getting good grades. His future looked assured. And then on the morning of Sept 25, 2015, he dropped dead to the floor of natural causes. As a result; his college education, and his hope to become a counselor, dropped dead to the floor right with him.

          POP CLOCK UPDATE: 6 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 445,092 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.


          • #6
            Here in America, even the worst among the worst have the right to a lawyer, and if they can't afford one, the system will appoint a public defender for them.

            But in hades; people are abandoned. For example: the names of Abraham and Lazarus are given in Luke 16:19-31, but the rich man's name isn't given. He's a forgotten man; but not me.

            Rom 8:33-34 . . Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus who died? More than that, who was raised to life; who is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us?

            Thanks to Christ, I won't have to stand before God alone; but that nameless rich man? He will.

            POP CLOCK UPDATE: 8 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 593,456 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.


            • #7
              Creeping up the blind side, shinning up the wall,
              stealing through the dark of the night.
              Climbing through a window, stepping to the floor
              checking to the left and the right.
              Picking up the pieces, putting them away;
              something doesn't feel quite right.

              Help me someone, let me out of here.
              Then out of the dark was suddenly heard:
              Welcome to the Home by the Sea

              Coming out the woodwork, through the open door,
              pushing from above and below.
              Shadows with no substance, in the shape of men;
              round and down and sideways they go.
              Adrift without direction, eyes that hold despair
              then as one they sigh and they moan:

              Help us someone, let us out of here.
              Living here so long undisturbed,
              dreaming of the time we were free
              so many years ago
              before the time when we first heard:
              Welcome to the Home by the Sea

              Sit down . . Sit down
              As we relive our lives in what we tell you

              Images of sorrow, pictures of delight
              things that go to make up a life.
              Endless days of summer, longer nights of gloom
              waiting for the morning light.
              Scenes of unimportance, photos in a frame
              things that go to make up a life.

              Sit down . . Sit down
              Cause you won't get away,
              no; with us you will stay
              for the rest of your days.
              So sit down as we relive our lives in what we tell you.
              Let us relive our lives in what we tell you.

              Home By The Sea
              Genesis, 1983
              Phil Collins, Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford

              The lyrics of that song are useful for depicting how one of the few thing that some people have to do down in the netherworld to help pass the time is tell each other about their previous lives. There is, of course, nothing to tell about their lives down there since the colloquialism "get a life" is a non sequitur in that place. Nobody has a life; nor any hope of getting one.

              POP CLOCK UPDATE: 10 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 741,820 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.


              • #8
                Saturday, June 27, 2010, a 6-month-old baby girl was killed and her mother seriously injured when the pair were struck by a falling tree branch in New York City's Central Park Zoo. The girl's father was taking their picture near the sea lion exhibit when a branch above them suddenly snapped off and fell.

                Tuesday, July 3, 2007; nineteen year-old Ramiro Gonzalez was returning home to Nyssa Oregon from a week-end honeymoon in northern California with his bride Idalia asleep in the back seat when their 1997 Pontiac Grand Am hit a cow twenty miles east of Burns. The Pontiac went off the road, through a fence, and burst into flames. Idalia escaped with only minor injuries, but Ramiro died at the Ste. Charles Medical Center in Bend the very next day.

                Ramiro and his bride didn't get to live in a home of their own for even one single minute of their marriage-- never had a baby, never joined the PTA, never saved for college, never went to ballet lessons, nor to soccer or little league, never went on family picnics, never took home movies and photos at Christmas, Easter, or birthdays, never went to the beach and built sand castles --no, their entire future, and all their dreams of family life, were shattered in an instant by a lame-brained bovine; and Ramiro wasn't even 20 years old yet. He could've lived another fifty years.

                March 20, 2008; fifty-seven year old Judy Kay Zagorski, of Pigeon, Michigan, was sitting in the front seat of her father's boat going 25 knots on the Atlantic Ocean side of Vaca Key in Florida, when a Spotted Eagle Ray, with a wingspan of 5 to 6 feet; leaped up out of the water-- for who knows what reason --and collided with Zagorski, knocking her backwards onto the deck of the boat. She died from the impact. Judy's sister, standing next to her, wasn't injured.

                On a November morning in 1998, Alan Pakula climbed into his Volvo station wagon and began the 100-mile drive from Manhattan to his Long Island house. The acclaimed movie director of Sophie's Choice, All The President's Men, and The Pelican Brief, had made that trip countless times with no incident.

                As the 70 year-old Pakula neared exit 49 on the Long Island Expressway just before noon, the tires of a vehicle ahead of him flipped a 7-foot piece of steel rod into the air. Within seconds, the rod shot through Pakula's windshield, smashing into his forehead, killing him almost instantly.

                Death often comes when people least expect it. As a rule, they don't usually get up in the morning planning it to be their last day on earth. The 169,752 killed, and 127,294 listed as missing in more than eleven countries by the tsunami of 2004, were taken by surprise, and given no warning it was to be their last day on earth.

                The 2,829 people who perished in a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and the 189 who died in the Pentagon, didn't go in to work expecting their lives to end before lunch that day. No, people's lives often end while they still have obligations and commitments, aspirations, things to do, places to go, and people to see; when a car accident, train wreck, act of nature, plane crash, crime, heart attack, or stroke puts an abrupt end to every plan they ever made.

                Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010, a 7.0 earthquake struck Port au Prince Haiti right out of the blue subsequently causing the loss of more than 200,000 lives. A similar act of nature on March 11, 2011, left 25,000 dead and/or missing in Japan.

                Okeechobee woman Dawn Johnston, 38, was killed Wednesday June 30, 2010 after part of a portable toilet crashed through her car's windshield. Dawn was driving south on SR 15 shortly after 11 a.m. when two portable toilets fell from the trailer of a pickup truck traveling north,. The portable toilets shattered when they hit the road, and a piece of one of them crashed through the woman's windshield, striking her. Johnston's car then veered off the road and collided with a tree.

                A rain-saturated hillside above the Stillaguamish River on the outskirts of the rural town of Oso in the State of Washington gave way March 22, 2014 leaving behind a current death toll of 41 souls. The landslide happened to suddenly and so rapidly that nobody saw it coming and/or had the slightest chance of getting out of the way. Listed among the dead and missing was a four-month old infant.

                Freak incidents like those listed above can happen to anybody in the form of a stray bullet from a drive-by, lightening strike, gas explosion, choking on a piece of meat, electrocution, earthquake, a drunk driver, a fall in the bath tub; bricks dropped from an overpass, a school shooting, or any number of out-of-the-blue surprises.

                Because of the uncertainty of tomorrow, people need to start thinking about the afterlife today, while they have the chance; rather than risk being caught off guard by sudden death when there will be no time to think; and they find themselves suddenly thrust into the unseen world quite by surprise.

                Ecc 9:12 . . No man knows when his hour will come: as fish are caught in a cruel net, or birds are taken in a snare, so men are trapped by evil times that fall unexpectedly upon them.

                POP CLOCK UPDATE: 12 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 890,184 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.


                • #9
                  According to Matt 10:28, the body and the soul are perishable. However; though the body is perishable by any means, the soul is perishable only by divine means; i.e. the deaths of body and soul aren't necessarily simultaneous, viz: the soul lives on until such a time as God decides to give it either a thumb up or a thumb down.

                  POP CLOCK UPDATE: 14 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 1,038,548 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.


                  • #10
                    Mark 9:47-48 . . If your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. It is better to enter the kingdom of God half blind than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell; where the worm never dies and the fire never goes out.

                    The "hell" in that passage is a different Greek word than the "hell" of Luke 16:19-31. That one is haides (hah'-dace) which is an afterlife sphere where all the dead go; both the good dead and the bad dead regardless of age, race, color, gender or religious preference. This word here in Mark is geena (gheh'-en-nah) which is where only the bad dead will end up some day: likely the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11-15 where they'll undergo termination akin to a foundry worker falling into a kettle of molten iron.

                    Anyway; Christ's instructions didn't reveal anything new. He simply reiterated information that had already been released by an Old Testament prophet roughly 700 years before.

                    Isa 66:22-24 . . From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me-- speaks the Lord. And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against Me: their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind.

                    That rather ghastly scene depicts a sort of tourist attraction similar to the La Brea Tar Pits museum in Los Angeles where the remains of prehistoric creatures, excavated from ancient asphalt deposits, are on display.

                    A worm that thrives in flame is pretty amazing, but not unreasonable. The 4-inch Pompeii worm lives in sea water temperatures of 176° Fahrenheit; hot enough to kill salmonella and sanitize an egg. So I guess if God could create a worm like the Pompeii, it shouldn't be too difficult for Him to create worms that like it even warmer.

                    FAQ: The human body is organic. So then, how can it survive in flame as perpetual nourishment for those worms?

                    A: The laws of nature are not absolute. They were created in the first chapter of Genesis to control the behavior of created matter, and as such are easily manipulated by the one who designed them.

                    For example: fire totally incinerated the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah but left unscathed a desert shrub that Moses encountered in the Sinai outback while tending his father-in-law's sheep. (Ex 3:1-3)

                    Compare Dan 3:8-27 where a blistering hot fire didn't even so much as singe the clothing of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego while slaying the guards that threw them in the furnace.

                    FAQ: Won't the worms eventually exhaust their food supply?

                    A: There are incidents in the Bible where small amounts of food stuffs were miraculously multiplied. One example is 1Kgs 17:8-16 where a tiny bit of flour and oil nourished Elijah and a widow woman, and her son, for a good many days during a time of prolonged drought.

                    Another incident is at 2Kgs 4:1-7 where a certain widow's husband died and left her deeply in debt. God multiplied her last pot of oil sufficiently to sell enough to pay off her debts, thereby saving her two sons from slavery.

                    No; I'm pretty sure those worms won't need to worry about running out of human remains with which to sustain themselves.

                    POP CLOCK UPDATE: 16 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 1,186,912 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.


                    • #11
                      Ecc 1:2-4 . . Meaningless! Futile! complains the Teacher. Utterly meaningless! Everything is meaningless. What does a man gain from all his labor at which he toils under the sun? Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever.

                      The earth is dumber than a spatula; yet easily outlives its human potentate whose IQ is infinitely greater. Take for example the great granite monuments in Yosemite Valley. Tourists to the valley come, and tourists to the valley go; and one day the grim reaper catches up with those tourists and they're gone; yet Yosemite's great stones abide decade after decade; century after century.

                      Most children born this day will be dead in 100 years; and Yosemite won't even notice. Though a child born today may be intelligent enough to eventually understand quantum mechanics and play classical guitar like Andrés Segovia; yet Yosemite's sentinels-- stupid, mute, untalented, and uneducated --will easily outlast it.

                      Ecc 2:15-16 . . I thought in my heart: The fate of the fool will overtake me also. What then do I gain by being intelligent? I said in my heart: This is meaningless. For the intelligent man, like the fool, will not be long remembered-- in days to come both will be forgotten. Like the fool, the intelligent man too must die.

                      POP CLOCK UPDATE: 18 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 1,335,276 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.
                      Last edited by Dant01; 02-02-2020, 04:42 PM.


                      • #12

                        out of hades many souls will be saved...

                        For only christ will separate wheat from chaff.

                        physical death does not determine the final judgment of a soul.

                        Only God does and at the hour He appoints.


                        • #13
                          Judas goats are trained for use in slaughterhouses and herd control. In stockyards, they lead sheep to slaughter; and are also used to lead other animals to specific pens and on to trucks. The term is a reference to the biblical traitor Judas Iscariot.

                          The phrase has also been used to describe goats utilized to locate feral goats targeted for eradication. They're usually outfitted with a transmitter, painted in red and then released. The goats then locate the remaining herds of feral goats, allowing hunters with tracking devices to find and exterminate them. The red paint marks the goat with the transmitter so the hunters know which one not to shoot.

                          You know what can be even worse than ending up in the fiery sector of Hades? Your own children following you there: and they trusted you.

                          Here's a sort of cute story I heard once. I don't know if it's true but I guess it's probable.

                          An alcoholic farmer went out to the barn in the dead of night after a snowfall to sneak a pull from his liquor bottle. Just as he got to the barn door he heard something behind him. Turning, the farmer recognized his little boy coming towards him. In amazement he asked the little guy how he ever managed to find his way out to the barn in the dark. His son replied: It was easy; I walked in your footprints.

                          One can only imagine the anguish that parents in the netherworld must feel knowing that they inadvertently raised their children in an ideology that led them down the road to the wrong side of Hades and all the while sincerely believing themselves doing the right thing. In other words: they actually Judas-goated their children to follow mom and dad down there. For some families, the only thing they have to look forward to in the afterlife is a sad reunion in fire and despair.

                          POP CLOCK UPDATE: 20 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 1,483,640 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.
                          Last edited by Dant01; 02-05-2020, 01:30 PM.


                          • #14
                            Luke 16:25 . . Abraham said: "Son, remember . ."

                            I should think that one of the negative aspects of the fiery sector of Hades is memory. How people down there retain their memories sans the brain cells they left behind with their corpse, I don't know; but they do, just as the rich man in that story is able to experience thirst sans a flesh and blood tongue.

                            The older one gets, the more memories they accumulate, and many of those memories haunt us with terrible regret. However, people in Hades not only have to cope with their bad memories, but also the good ones too, and I should think it's remembering the good things they enjoyed in life that makes their situation only worse in the heat.

                            If everybody was born and raised in Hades; and never once ventured out; that would be the only life they've ever known, so they wouldn't have a clue what it's like to really live. For them the old maxim "Ignorance is bliss" would certainly hold true.

                            POP CLOCK UPDATE: 22 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 1,632,004 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.


                            • #15
                              Gen 6:5 . . God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

                              The thoughts of the heart are somewhat different than the thoughts that go through the mind; and are often blocked out, viz: "repressed"; defined as a mental process by which distressing thoughts, memories, or impulses that may give rise to anxiety are excluded from consciousness and left to operate in the unconscious, i.e. the subconscious which, in Freud's opinion, is a repository for socially unacceptable ideas, wishes or desires, traumatic memories, and painful emotions.

                              Matt 15:19 . . Out of the heart proceed evil thoughts

                              So then, it's not how people's minds work that defines them, no, it's how their heart works that really defines them; and people's hearts are easily capable of hoodwinking their own consciousness.

                              Jer 17:9 . .The human heart is most deceitful and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?

                              God is able to peer into the heart's contents. That means He will be confronting people with things about themselves that they suppressed and kept under wraps all their lives; and that's why I sometimes say only a fool would take their chances with God. They have no clue the extent of the psychological tsunami they're walking into.

                              POP CLOCK UPDATE: 24 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 1,780,368 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Jan 14, 2020.