Open carry: how many guns is too many?

[christ_undivided]

They have received training, and carry guns occupationally.

Random "me want shooty-bang" citizens, do neither.

I've received training myself. I'm better than they are with a gun. Law enforcement has proven that training doesn't equal success.

 

[Eightcrackers]

You can't eliminate guns. I bet you don't even know that a person can manufacture their own firearms. They don't have to buy them....... As long as anyone has a gun, I demand one myself.

Then why not make it so that nobody has them?

You must ban guns because bad guys have guns.

Correct - you make illegal the thing they use to kill people.

What is the difference in the arguments?

See the US vs UK firearms homicide rate.

 

[glenlogie]

It is totally foolish to think that the US's Second Amendment makes it safer, when the homicide rate is several times higher than in civilized countries where firearms are not available to anybody that wants them.

So stay where you are and keep your nose out of our business

 

[Eightcrackers]

I've received training myself.

It is not mandatory, unless you are military or law enforcement.

You have to have training to drive a car, but not to own a gun. A dismal state of affairs.

 

[christ_undivided]

Both are extremely small. But the tiny amount of voter fraud does not affect election outcomes, whereas mass shootings results in dead and injured people, a very serious consequence.

Not true. Like I've already told you several times now,

When elections are decided by a few thousand votes at a national level, we need better voter verification. At least equal to gun registration and training.

 

[Eightcrackers]

Voter fraud exists at a higher ratio to voter count than gun owner to mass shootings.

Again, what's your point?

Fifty-odd people don't die for one case of voter fraud.

 

[glenlogie]

Both are extremely small. But the tiny amount of voter fraud does not affect election outcomes, whereas mass shootings results in dead and injured people, a very serious consequence.

So vibise admits that mass shootings are extremely rare in comparison to the total number of guns owners

 

[christ_undivided]

It is not mandatory, unless you are military or law enforcement.

You have to have training to drive a car, but not to own a gun. A dismal state of affairs.

To carry a firearm in my state, you have to receive training.

 

[christ_undivided]

Again, what's your point?

Fifty-odd people don't die for one case of voter fraud.

Keep reading...

 

[christ_undivided]

So vibise admits that mass shootings are extremely rare in comparison to the total number of guns owners

At least she has a little sense.

 

[glenlogie]

Then why not make it so that nobody has them?

Correct - you make illegal the thing they use to kill people.

See the US vs UK firearms homicide rate.

You live in fantasy land.

Prohibition was once tried . It did not work

 

[christ_undivided]

It is not mandatory, unless you are military or law enforcement.

You have to have training to drive a car, but not to own a gun. A dismal state of affairs.

Lets trade, you allow guns if the citizen is trained in "military" fashion and you intuition the same measure of verification for every single vote cast.

 

[Eightcrackers]

To carry a firearm in my state, you have to receive training.

Good for you.
And the other forty-nine?

 

[vibise]

Not true. Like I've already told you several times now,

When elections are decided by a few thousand votes at a national level, we need better voter verification. At least equal to gun registration and training.

But requirements for gun registration and training are minimal to nonexistent in much of the country.

What national elections are decided by a few thousand votes? The last few Presidential elections had differentials of millions of votes, although the anachronistic Electoral College gives some votes more weight than others.

 

[christ_undivided]

You live in fantasy land.

Prohibition was once tried . It did not work

No one wants to go back to the "homeland". Thank God we escaped......

 

[Eightcrackers]

You live in fantasy land.

Prohibition was once tried . It did not work

Prohibition of firearms, in the US?
When?

It's worked for us for a long time - check those murder rates again.

 

[glenlogie]

At least she has a little sense.

True, crackers lives in fantasy land if he thinks thst every gun can vanish from the earth

 

[christ_undivided]

Good for you.
And the other forty-nine?

Most all states that have concealed carry laws require it.

 

[glenlogie]

Prohibition of firearms, in the US?
When?

It's worked for us for a long time - check those murder rates again.

Alcohol. You lack a knowledge of history.

 

[Josheb]

Good for you.
And the other forty-nine?

Do you not know?

If lacking that knowledge, how then is anything on the matter measured?