God is a Spirit. The Father is NOT.
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Who dwells in unapproachable light that no man has ever seen?
Yahchristian
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TRINITARIAN…
Are you able to answer either YES or NO to the question…
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God is not a Spirit
The Father is not a Spirit
The Holy Spirit is not a Spirit
The Son is not a Spirit.
God is Spirit, not a spirit. Are you able to ask a question that is not based upon a lie?
johnny guitar
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NO, He is a PERSON.
Yahchristian
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johnny guitar
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Jesus Christ is. John 4:24.
Photine
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No two trins are agreed
johnny guitar
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False. ALL are agreed.
Yahchristian
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So according to the doctrine of the Trinity...
God is a Spirit, but the Holy Spirit is not a Spirit.
Correct?
@aeg4971 please give us your answer.
Yahchristian
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Just to clarify the doctrine of the Trinity...
Are all of these statements true?
A) God the Father is Spirit.
B) God the Son is Spirit.
C) God the Holy Spirit is Spirit.
Yahchristian
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So... according to the doctrine of the Trinity...
Is the Holy Spirit a Spirit?
Remember, you say it is vital to know the true nature of God.
johnny guitar
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Correct.
Next question................
The same One as The express image of His substance. The substance of God is inexpressible in Himself as He is not seen but is expressed in God's Personality as Man. That's why Yahusha Messiah Whom we know as God manifesting in flesh expressed God unseen. He has fullness of Deity in Bodily form that is comprehensive to God's highest creation of man. Glorified man will be above Angelic beings as God as designed - Heb 2 and Psalms 8.
Trinitarianism and Unitarianism and other 'isms' dilute this fact
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johnny guitar
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ALL are false.
There is no God The Son and God The Holy Spirit in scriptures. There is only God The Father in covenant relationship with His people Israel. There is also no multi-personal God. Unitarianism is also wrong.
In ancient Paleo Hebrew, Father is written as 'AB' (Abba).
Aleph and Bait is 'AB' (Father)
Each letter in Paleo Hebrew has meaning. "Aleph" stands for Supremacy and 'Beit' stands for Tent/House.
"AB' means The Supreme Power (God) in a Tent/House.
That's how we had presence of God as The Father of Israel in the Tabernacle of witness in the OT. The Father has no other sense than dwelling with His people in covenant relationship. Unitarian or Trinitarian concept of The Father is wrong.
Jim harmon
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GOD the FATHER , made all
HIS word , which HE spoke .
HIS Spirit is in HIS word .
Man
body , earthly
soul , living breath
spirit , thought and actions .
Is man three persons ? No
nor is GOD three persons .
HIS word , which HE spoke .
HIS Spirit is in HIS word .
Man
body , earthly
soul , living breath
spirit , thought and actions .
Is man three persons ? No
nor is GOD three persons .
God word is not just spoken. Even you and I have to intelligibly produce a word before it is uttered. Therefore unlike our word God Word is Hypostatic by itself.
Men are composite and contained in individual subjects, whereas Divine Persons are simple of Spirit, and not contained in a composite subject.
....... Alan
Not one word you typed Negate One is The Personalis of The Father and another is of The Son. You divide The Substance , then turn around and qualify that division by confounding and confusing The Subsistence. Hence you dilute the fact because you insist on debating your own thought of the Trinity, and that is not the same as debating against the Trinity.
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Yes The Person of The Holy Spirit is same virtus Spirationis, just as The Person of The Father ,and likewise The Person of The Son is virtus Spirationis.
It seems anti Trinitarians and some Trinitarians alike think that there is some either, or to be determined here. It isn't. Anti Trinitarians, There is no need to deny a plurality in the Supposita in order to affirm God is a spirit ,and Trinitarians, neither is there a need to deny that Every Divine Person by Himself is simple form of Spirit in order to affirm that The Father The Son The Holy Spirit are Three distinct Persons.
.......Alan