romishpopishorganist
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My understanding is that you are Protestant. Being Protestant you subscribe to Sola Scriptura. My understanding was that Sola Scriptura Christians believe that "When you oppose the Bible you oppose Christ." Since when do Bible only Christians believe opposing the ECF is opposing Christ? For that matter, since when do Bible only Christians even care what the ECF had to say?Sorry, but you ain't exempt from critique. We all know what the ECFs said and it is all on the record. When you publicly oppose them, you bet Christ followers are going to call you out on it.
Augustine also believed in the real and true presence, yet you reject that. Thus, I fail to understand your statement "When you oppose the ECF, you oppose Christ."
I accept their authority when it reflects the universal Tradition, not when it reflects their individual opinions.The irony here is that it is YOU that does not accept their authority to teach or hand on the Faith.
Well there you go. So why does Augustine matter here for you? I can understand why Augustine would matter for Mysterium, but not for you.No duh. He is just a dude. He is not a "Saint", he is only a witness to what was true in his locale and generation, and he is no "Doctor of the Church."
Now you seem to be contradicting yourself.This is why what such ECFs say is totally relevant when it comes to your sect, but mean close to nothing when it comes to Apostolic Christianity.
How can my "sect" change what it never taught officially?Thank you for your confession that your sect changed the teaching. I agree with you.
As the Church never condemned his teaching, but never officially taught it either. How can Augustine teach in opposition to that which the Church has never defined?Either Augustine taught in opposition to what the Catholic Church teaches regarding babies who die, or he agreed with them.
They neither condemned nor affirmed him. The Magisterium allowed and continues to allow Catholics to believe as they wish with regard to Augustine's teaching. What is different today is that the Magisterium has distanced itself from Augustine's teaching on unbaptized infants.They only AFFIRMED him, so we see it is you teaching in opposition to what the Catholic Church taught all the way up to Vatican II.