God is a Spirit. The Father is NOT.

Twisting is done by you because you don't know your scriptures:

James 2: 26 For as the body without the spirit (breath) is dead, so also the belief is dead without the works.

That's how The Messiah died and yet His body was incorruptible unlike any man in Adam. Our Body decay process starts within minutes of death. But it's not with Messiah:

Acts 2:27 because you will not abandon my soul in Sheol, neither will you allow your Holy One to see decay.

It was impossible for His body to decay because it's not from the dust of the earth but Spirit embossed. In Bodily form, He is Equal WITH God:


Phil 2:
5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Messiah Yeshua,

6 who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God a thing to be grasped,

What's the form of God? In Bodily form of Man. He is the equal share of God in Body

Why is He called Immanuel? God with us! It's because of His Body is embossed by The Spirit - 1 John 5:8 which you reject.

You reject God became a Soul being and externally Anointed by His own Spirit of The Father as Christ/Messiah.

Being The Son of God is His capacity of Mediatorship and not a 2nd Person of Trinity. He represents Israel as the firstborn son of Yahuah

He is Yahuah as a Soul being and Yahuah as The Father is Spirit being - The same Yahuah without being two Persons.

There is not going to be a Father apart from Yahusha (Yahuah our Saviour) in the age to come. If you like Unitarian look for a Father beyond Him will be cast out because you didn't know anything about the mystery of God as of The Father and as if The Son. You think they are part of Trinity.
FYI, the True Born Again Christian readers can CLEARLY see that is you and NOT me that is Twisting ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) the scriptures because we both agree that the FATHER is God, BUT you do NOT agree that the Son & Holy Spirit are God also as John 1:1 shows the " Word was God " and " was with God " ( the Father & Holy Spirit ) in the beginning! Then God the Word " became FLESH " as Jesus Christ the Son! God the Word can NOT cease to still be God once He became human as Jesus Christ ( God in the Flesh )! Thus He is God-Man as I Correctly stated and that is CLEARLY why God the Father calls Him " O God " in Heb.1:8, just after all His elect Angels, that were created THROUH / BY Him as God the Word as per John 1:3/Col.1:16, WORSHIPED Him ( God the Son ) in Heb.1:6! Thus Jesus is also God like the Father is! Now for the Holy Spirit/Ghost being God also, Acts 5:3-4 proves that Fact! The Holy Spirit being lied to is called God! Also the Holy Spirit is a Divine Person that can speak and teach as per Acts 13:2 and 21:11 and John 14:26! Thus we baptize in the NAME ( FSHS - Matt.28:29 ) of the THREE in One GOD or TRINITY ( 1 John 5:7 )! Case closed! ----------------------------

1 John 5:7​

New King James Version​

7 For there are three ( FSHS ) that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word ( Son ), and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. ( the TRINITY )
 
FYI, the True Born Again Christian readers can CLEARLY see that is you and NOT me that is Twisting ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) the scriptures because we both agree that the FATHER is God, BUT you do NOT agree that the Son & Holy Spirit are God also as John 1:1 shows the " Word was God " and " was with God " ( the Father & Holy Spirit ) in the beginning! Then God the Word " became FLESH " as Jesus Christ the Son! God the Word can NOT cease to still be God once He became human as Jesus Christ ( God in the Flesh )! Thus He is God-Man as I Correctly stated and that is CLEARLY why God the Father calls Him " O God " in Heb.1:8, just after all His elect Angels, that were created THROUH / BY Him as God the Word as per John 1:3/Col.1:16, WORSHIPED Him ( God the Son ) in Heb.1:6! Thus Jesus is also God like the Father is! Now for the Holy Spirit/Ghost being God also, Acts 5:3-4 proves that Fact! The Holy Spirit being lied to is called God! Also the Holy Spirit is a Divine Person that can speak and teach as per Acts 13:2 and 21:11 and John 14:26! Thus we baptize in the NAME ( FSHS - Matt.28:29 ) of the THREE in One GOD or TRINITY ( 1 John 5:7 )! Case closed! ----------------------------

1 John 5:7​

New King James Version​

7 For there are three ( FSHS ) that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word ( Son ), and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. ( the TRINITY )
Ancient manuscripts don't have 1John 5:7 as F, W, HS. It's modern with addition:


ܗܢܘ ܕܐܬܐ ܒܝܕ ܡܝܐ ܘܕܡܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܠܐ ܗܘܐ ܒܡܝܐ ܒܠܚܘܕ ܐܠܐ ܒܡܝܐ ܘܕܡܐ
6 This is The One who came by means of The Water and The Blood; Eshu Meshikha {Yeshua, The Anointed One}. It wasn't of The Water alone, but rather, by The Water and The Blood.

ܘܪܘܚܐ ܡܣܗܕܐ ܕܗܝ ܪܘܚܐ ܐܝܬܝܗ ܫܪܪܐ
7 And The Rukha {The Spirit} testifies; because that One, The Rukha {The Spirit}, is The Truth.

ܘܐܝܬܝܗܘܢ ܬܠܬܐ ܣܗܕܝܢ ܪܘܚܐ ܘܡܝܐ ܘܕܡܐ ܘܬܠܬܝܗܘܢ ܒܚܕ ܐܢܘܢ
8 And there are three testifying: The Rukha {The Spirit}, and The Water, and The Blood. And these three are in One.

Comma Johanneum

Comma Johanneum refers to a short clause in Yoḥ. א‎ 5:7-8 / 1Jo 5:7-8 in the Latin Vulgate text which was transmitted since the Early Middle Ages. It was later included in the Textus Receptus Greek in support of trinity doctrine. The comma does not appear in the older Greek text.

There cannot be The Father and The WORD in heaven as persons. Neither Holy Spirit is a Person.

Person can be referred to only Yahusha Messiah, The Son of God because He is in likeness of Man. The Father can't be a Person either. The unknown substance of The Father is expressed through the Personage of Messiah in human form. No one has ever seen nor ever heard The Father.

The problem: No one has ever seen God.

The Solution: The Only Begotten God.

John 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten God who is at the Father’s bosom has made him known.

You don't know what you are saying under the intoxication of Trinity. There were no 3 Persons in God at anytime.

There is no mention of The Father or Son until John 1:14.

John 1: 1 is about The beginning and not in eternity past.

It says The WORD was WITH God - not one Person alongside with another Person. Holy Spirit is (according to Trinitarianism 3rd Person) missing there

If you read the Greek text there is no definite article before God in John 1:3c. This shows that John being a Jew is showing He is speaking about the same God in two realms - As invisible and visible just as he is showing in John 1:18.

Had there been a definite article before God (The Word was God), then there would be two Gods. Apostles never believed in a multi-personal God. John 1:1 makes it impossible.

The Father and The Son are The same Yahuah in two aspects Spirit and Soul. These is not understood in Trinitarianism. The Son is Equal WITH The Father and not that Son is equal TO The Father.

Phil 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.
Trintarians have twisted this to mean Yahusha Messiah s equal to God to make them multi-persons.

Equal WITH God would definitely infer God as invisible Spirit has His equal share as Soul being (Body + breath) in The Person of Yahusha Messiah. IOW, The Father and Son are not two persons but the same YHWH.

Luke 2:11

ܐܬܝܠܕ ܠܟܘܢ ܓܝܪ ܝܘܡܢܐ ܦܪܘܩܐ ܕܐܝܬܘܗܝ ܡܪܝܐ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܒܡܕܝܢܬܗ ܕܕܘܝܕ
11 For, unto you is born yawmana {today}, in The Madintheh d’Dawiyd {The City of David}, The Pharuqa {The Saviour/The Deliverer}, who is MarYa Meshikha {The Lord-YHWH, The Anointed One}.
 
Ancient manuscripts don't have 1John 5:7 as F, W, HS. It's modern with addition:


ܗܢܘ ܕܐܬܐ ܒܝܕ ܡܝܐ ܘܕܡܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܠܐ ܗܘܐ ܒܡܝܐ ܒܠܚܘܕ ܐܠܐ ܒܡܝܐ ܘܕܡܐ
6 This is The One who came by means of The Water and The Blood; Eshu Meshikha {Yeshua, The Anointed One}. It wasn't of The Water alone, but rather, by The Water and The Blood.

ܘܪܘܚܐ ܡܣܗܕܐ ܕܗܝ ܪܘܚܐ ܐܝܬܝܗ ܫܪܪܐ
7 And The Rukha {The Spirit} testifies; because that One, The Rukha {The Spirit}, is The Truth.

ܘܐܝܬܝܗܘܢ ܬܠܬܐ ܣܗܕܝܢ ܪܘܚܐ ܘܡܝܐ ܘܕܡܐ ܘܬܠܬܝܗܘܢ ܒܚܕ ܐܢܘܢ
8 And there are three testifying: The Rukha {The Spirit}, and The Water, and The Blood. And these three are in One.

Comma Johanneum

Comma Johanneum refers to a short clause in Yoḥ. א‎ 5:7-8 / 1Jo 5:7-8 in the Latin Vulgate text which was transmitted since the Early Middle Ages. It was later included in the Textus Receptus Greek in support of trinity doctrine. The comma does not appear in the older Greek text.

There cannot be The Father and The WORD in heaven as persons. Neither Holy Spirit is a Person.

Person can be referred to only Yahusha Messiah, The Son of God because He is in likeness of Man. The Father can't be a Person either. The unknown substance of The Father is expressed through the Personage of Messiah in human form. No one has ever seen nor ever heard The Father.

The problem: No one has ever seen God.

The Solution: The Only Begotten God.

John 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten God who is at the Father’s bosom has made him known.

You don't know what you are saying under the intoxication of Trinity. There were no 3 Persons in God at anytime.

There is no mention of The Father or Son until John 1:14.

John 1: 1 is about The beginning and not in eternity past.

It says The WORD was WITH God - not one Person alongside with another Person. Holy Spirit is (according to Trinitarianism 3rd Person) missing there

If you read the Greek text there is no definite article before God in John 1:3c. This shows that John being a Jew is showing He is speaking about the same God in two realms - As invisible and visible just as he is showing in John 1:18.

Had there been a definite article before God (The Word was God), then there would be two Gods. Apostles never believed in a multi-personal God. John 1:1 makes it impossible.

The Father and The Son are The same Yahuah in two aspects Spirit and Soul. These is not understood in Trinitarianism. The Son is Equal WITH The Father and not that Son is equal TO The Father.

Phil 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.
Trintarians have twisted this to mean Yahusha Messiah s equal to God to make them multi-persons.

Equal WITH God would definitely infer God as invisible Spirit has His equal share as Soul being (Body + breath) in The Person of Yahusha Messiah. IOW, The Father and Son are not two persons but the same YHWH.

Luke 2:11

ܐܬܝܠܕ ܠܟܘܢ ܓܝܪ ܝܘܡܢܐ ܦܪܘܩܐ ܕܐܝܬܘܗܝ ܡܪܝܐ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܒܡܕܝܢܬܗ ܕܕܘܝܕ
11 For, unto you is born yawmana {today}, in The Madintheh d’Dawiyd {The City of David}, The Pharuqa {The Saviour/The Deliverer}, who is MarYa Meshikha {The Lord-YHWH, The Anointed One}.
We do NOT need 1 John 5:7 to Prove the TRINITY! Acts 5:3-4 and Hebrews 1:6+8 and John 1:1-14, Proves the Holy Spirit & Jesus are God like the Father is! The Holy Spirit would not speak & Teach ( Acts 13:1 & 21:11 as I previously posted and you Totally Ignored because it rebukes you as per 2 Tim.3:16 ) if He were not a Divine Person ( God )! Case still closed!
 
We do NOT need 1 John 5:7 to Prove the TRINITY! Acts 5:3-4 and Hebrews 1:6+8 and John 1:1-14, Proves the Holy Spirit & Jesus are God like the Father is! The Holy Spirit would not speak & Teach ( Acts 13:1 & 21:11 as I previously posted and you Totally Ignored because it rebukes you as per 2 Tim.3:16 ) if He were not a Divine Person ( God )! Case still closed!
No scriptures teach a Trinity. Trinity is derived by manipulation of scriptures.

Invisible God is not a Person or set of Persons.

The problem of His being not tangible to be face to face with creation is solved by Himself in a Image transcripted in form of Man Which Messiah is.

Heb 1:6-8 doesn't prove a Trinity. It's OT prophetic scriptures which are quoted in Heb 1:6,8. It's YHWH Himself in Mediatorship and becoming Soul Being. The Father didn't speak in Hebrews epistle but are all quotations from OT which the author of Hebrews connects.

That's why Yahuah in OT was in Theophanic appearances in the form of Man. Rather all Anthromorphism of the OT prophetic scriptures relating to Yahuah Who would manifest in a Body of flesh. He is Yahuah as a Soul being and Yahuah as The Father is Spirit Being.

But the sad thing is Trinitarianism makes The Father and The Son as two Persons which is heathen in origin.

Acts 13 doesn't teach a Trinity , neither Acts 5:3-4.

The Apostles are Anointed by The Spirit of Messiah/Father and thus lying to the Holy Spirit is lying to God. It never proves Holy Spirit is the 3rd Person of Trinity which is again by manipulation of scriptures.

Acts 21 doesn't teach Holy Spirit is a 3rd Person of Trinity. It's The Spirit of God in Apostles as Anointing.

2Tim 3:16 says all scriptures are God breathed but man can twist them and can add to them for their own destruction.

Your present Greek manuscript copies have substituted by a generic title 'Lord' instead of Yahuah/YHWH. Jesus is also a fake Name. There was no letter 'J' even in English some 500 years back. That's why The Messiah was never known as Jesus in the first century.

The differences in schools of Theology is because of these substances and addictions. It's Acts Ch 7:45 lead me to His correct name but not as KJV translated it but because it's in the OT. The Name means Yahuah is salvation.

I will show you how ancient manuscript copy translation shows that One Born in Bethlehem is Yahuah:

Luke 2:
ܐܬܝܠܕ ܠܟܘܢ ܓܝܪ ܝܘܡܢܐ ܦܪܘܩܐ ܕܐܝܬܘܗܝ ܡܪܝܐ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܒܡܕܝܢܬܗ ܕܕܘܝܕ
11 For, unto you is born yawmana {today}, in The Madintheh d’Dawiyd {The City of David}, The Pharuqa {The Saviour/The Deliverer}, who is MarYa Meshikha {The Lord-YHWH, The Anointed One}.

He is Yahuah Himself as The Messiah (Christ - Anointed One).

The Father and The Son are titles and not Names. The Name is singular Yahuah/YHWH.
 
No scriptures teach a Trinity. Trinity is derived by manipulation of scriptures.

Invisible God is not a Person or set of Persons.

The problem of His being not tangible to be face to face with creation is solved by Himself in a Image transcripted in form of Man Which Messiah is.

Heb 1:6-8 doesn't prove a Trinity. It's OT prophetic scriptures which are quoted in Heb 1:6,8. It's YHWH Himself in Mediatorship and becoming Soul Being. The Father didn't speak in Hebrews epistle but are all quotations from OT which the author of Hebrews connects.

That's why Yahuah in OT was in Theophanic appearances in the form of Man. Rather all Anthromorphism of the OT prophetic scriptures relating to Yahuah Who would manifest in a Body of flesh. He is Yahuah as a Soul being and Yahuah as The Father is Spirit Being.

But the sad thing is Trinitarianism makes The Father and The Son as two Persons which is heathen in origin.

Acts 13 doesn't teach a Trinity , neither Acts 5:3-4.

The Apostles are Anointed by The Spirit of Messiah/Father and thus lying to the Holy Spirit is lying to God. It never proves Holy Spirit is the 3rd Person of Trinity which is again by manipulation of scriptures.

Acts 21 doesn't teach Holy Spirit is a 3rd Person of Trinity. It's The Spirit of God in Apostles as Anointing.

2Tim 3:16 says all scriptures are God breathed but man can twist them and can add to them for their own destruction.

Your present Greek manuscript copies have substituted by a generic title 'Lord' instead of Yahuah/YHWH. Jesus is also a fake Name. There was no letter 'J' even in English some 500 years back. That's why The Messiah was never known as Jesus in the first century.

The differences in schools of Theology is because of these substances and addictions. It's Acts Ch 7:45 lead me to His correct name but not as KJV translated it but because it's in the OT. The Name means Yahuah is salvation.

I will show you how ancient manuscript copy translation shows that One Born in Bethlehem is Yahuah:

Luke 2:
ܐܬܝܠܕ ܠܟܘܢ ܓܝܪ ܝܘܡܢܐ ܦܪܘܩܐ ܕܐܝܬܘܗܝ ܡܪܝܐ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܒܡܕܝܢܬܗ ܕܕܘܝܕ
11 For, unto you is born yawmana {today}, in The Madintheh d’Dawiyd {The City of David}, The Pharuqa {The Saviour/The Deliverer}, who is MarYa Meshikha {The Lord-YHWH, The Anointed One}.

He is Yahuah Himself as The Messiah (Christ - Anointed One).

The Father and The Son are titles and not Names. The Name is singular Yahuah/YHWH.
FYI, Heb.1:6+8 Proves that the Son Jesus Christ is God ( not the TRINITY )! The TRINITY is proved when all three of these Divine Persons ( FSHS ) are proved to be called God! We both agree that the Father is God! John 1:1-16 ; 8:58 & Heb.1:6+8 shows us that Jesus is God the Word as well as a human man and Acts 5:3-4 shows us that the Holy Spirit is also called God! Thus the 3 in one GOD that I can call a TRINITY! Case closed!
 
FYI, Heb.1:6+8 Proves that the Son Jesus Christ is God ( not the TRINITY )! The TRINITY is proved when all three of these Divine Persons ( FSHS ) are proved to be called God! We both agree that the Father is God! John 1:1-16 ; 8:58 & Heb.1:6+8 shows us that Jesus is God the Word as well as a human man and Acts 5:3-4 shows us that the Holy Spirit is also called God! Thus the 3 in one GOD that I can call a TRINITY! Case closed!
I didn't say Yahusha Messiah is not God. But how He is God? Since you deny that His Body is The Spirit transcripted Body you deny His Deity automatically. He is the Equal share in Body of God as The Spirit Being and not a 2nd Person of Trinity.

FYI, He as the Soul Being is transitioning through His Mediatorship to be The Father of Eternity. His Sonship will end:

1Cor 15: 28 When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.

His Sonship has to do in His capacity of Mediatorship where He transforms His elect as the sons of God. It's also mentioned in Psalms 110:1.

YHWH said unto Adonai (Who is YHWH Himself), sir at My Right Hand UNTIL I make your enemies Your footstool. The last enemy is death : 1Cor 15-25-26.

Isaiah 9:6 says The Son given to us will be called Father of eternity. That's what He is going to be in Rev 21:3-7. He will no longer be The Son.

Heb 1:8 is quotation of OT prophetic scriptures where YHWH as the invisible Spirit witnesses about YHWH in form of a Man (Soul being).

Rev 21:3-7 He will be all of the fullness of The Deity in Bodily form. He will be God as The Father and His saved ones will be His sons:

Rev 21: 3 I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look, the tabernacle of God is with humans, and he will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
7 He who overcomes, I will give him these things. I will be his God, and he will be my son.

His The Monogenes Son as The Mediator of Israel. 'Monogenes' - is unique and pure Seed whereas, Israel is a mixed hybrid seed (wild olive Branches).

Mixed marriages were not allowed in Torah and also pre-Torah period. Only Noah was found perfect in his generation. Even during post flood there came to a mixed hybrid people. Yahuah never wanted His covenanted people to mix up with those who didn't know Yahuah. Even Abraham wasn't pure and later He was called to be separate from his father's house. That's why I keep telling you that Yahusha Messiah wasn't a biological Son but a Son by the legality of Torah. He is the pure Seed, non-hybrid and in Him we come out as The Firstfruits of His creatures .

Monogenes Son has nothing to do with being eternally begotten as Trinity teaches

By His grace I understand the doctrines of Theology and Christology very well.

Without having a good OT background it's impossible to understand doctrines.
 
FYI, Heb.1:6+8 Proves that the Son Jesus Christ is God ( not the TRINITY )! The TRINITY is proved when all three of these Divine Persons ( FSHS ) are proved to be called God! We both agree that the Father is God! John 1:1-16 ; 8:58 & Heb.1:6+8 shows us that Jesus is God the Word as well as a human man and Acts 5:3-4 shows us that the Holy Spirit is also called God! Thus the 3 in one GOD that I can call a TRINITY! Case closed!

Hebrews 1:6-8 does not prove Jesus is God. Not even close.

Hebrews 1:8,9 are quoted directly from Psalm 45 where it is talking about a human king, with a wife, being referred to as a god. Human kings aren't Lord God Almighty, not even close, and it's an affront to God's deity to claim a human is God.

The person being talked about in Hebrews 1 is a god. The translators shouldn't have capitalized the letter g there because it creates the issue of God Almighty being a human and having a God Almighty who is subservient with companions to be anointed above. God doesn't have companions to be anointed above since He's God, but Jesus does!

Numbers 23
19God is not a man, that He should lie,
or a son of man, that He should change His mind.
Does He speak and not act?
Does He promise and not fulfill?

With all of that being said, it would have been easier to just say "Jesus is God" if that was the point of Hebrews 1. Rather, the point of Hebrews 1 is that Jesus is divine because he is God's Son. God's Son. God's Son. How many times do I or the Bible have to call Jesus God's Son before they finally hear it and let it sink in?

Hebrews 4
15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who was tempted in every way that we are, yet was without sin.

James 1
13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.
 
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Hebrews 1:6-8 does not prove Jesus is God. Not even close.

Hebrews 1:8,9 are quoted directly from Psalm 45 where it is talking about a human king, with a wife, being referred to as a god. Human kings aren't Lord God Almighty, not even close, and it's an affront to God's deity to claim a human is God.

The person being talked about in Hebrews 1 is a god. The translators shouldn't have capitalized the letter g there because it creates the issue of God Almighty being a human and having a God Almighty who is subservient with companions to be anointed above. God doesn't have companions to be anointed above since He's God, but Jesus does!

Numbers 23
19God is not a man, that He should lie,
or a son of man, that He should change His mind.
Does He speak and not act?
Does He promise and not fulfill?

With all of that being said, it would have been easier to just say "Jesus is God" if that was the point of Hebrews 1. Rather, the point of Hebrews 1 is that Jesus is divine because he is God's Son. God's Son. God's Son. How many times do I or the Bible have to call Jesus God's Son before they finally hear it and let it sink in?

Hebrews 4
15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who was tempted in every way that we are, yet was without sin.

James 1
13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.
Sir, you don't understand the truth. YHWH is the King of Israel. YHWH manifested in flesh (however, not from the dust of the earth like Adam was) is Yahusha Messiah.

You got to go to ancient manuscript copies because modern Greek copies have replaced YHWH by 'Kurios' which is generic title 'Lord'.

The distinction between The Father and Son is between Ruach and Soul. YHWH as The Father is invisible Ruach and inorder to be face to face with creation, He comes as The Soul being (Bodily form).

It's there also in OT:

Gen 3: 8 And they heard the voice of יהוה Elohim walking about in the garden in the cool of the day, and Aḏam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of יהוה Elohim among the trees of the garden.

Moreover Moses knew of this:

Exod 15: 3 יהוה is a man of battle, יהוה is His Name.

Gen 32:24 And Yaʽaqoḇ was left alone. And a Man wrestled with him until the breaking of day.

30 And Yaʽaqoḇ called the name of the place Peni’ĕl, “For I have seen Elohim face to face, and my life is preserved.”

Ezk 1:26 And above the expanse over their heads was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like a sapphire stone. And on the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man high above it.

28 As the appearance of a rainbow in a cloud on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the brightness all around it. This was the appearance of the likeness of the esteem of יהוה. And when I saw it, I fell on my face, and I heard a voice of One speaking.

If you don't know Yahusha Messiah is the same YHWH in Man's form then you won't be the one to see God in the age to come.

He is however not multi-personal as Trinitarians say.
 
Hebrews 1:6-8 does not prove Jesus is God. Not even close.

Hebrews 1:8,9 are quoted directly from Psalm 45 where it is talking about a human king, with a wife, being referred to as a god. Human kings aren't Lord God Almighty, not even close, and it's an affront to God's deity to claim a human is God.

The person being talked about in Hebrews 1 is a god. The translators shouldn't have capitalized the letter g there because it creates the issue of God Almighty being a human and having a God Almighty who is subservient with companions to be anointed above. God doesn't have companions to be anointed above since He's God, but Jesus does!

Numbers 23
19God is not a man, that He should lie,
or a son of man, that He should change His mind.
Does He speak and not act?
Does He promise and not fulfill?

With all of that being said, it would have been easier to just say "Jesus is God" if that was the point of Hebrews 1. Rather, the point of Hebrews 1 is that Jesus is divine because he is God's Son. God's Son. God's Son. How many times do I or the Bible have to call Jesus God's Son before they finally hear it and let it sink in?

Hebrews 4
15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who was tempted in every way that we are, yet was without sin.

James 1
13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.
FYI, God the Word of John 1:1 became God-Man in John 1:14! Case closed!
 
FYI, God the Word of John 1:1 became God-Man in John 1:14! Case closed!

Have you read John 1:1 before? Let's look at it together.

John 1
1 In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

So here we have some very plain information and it's that fundamentally the Word was God Himself.

Now you might want to know who is called God through the Bible.

1 Corinthians 8
6 yet there is for us only one God, the Father, who is the Creator of all things and for whom we live; and there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created and through whom we live.

Ephesians 4
6 there is one God and Father of all people, who is Lord of all, works through all, and is in all.

Matthew 23
9 And you must not call anyone here on earth ‘Father,’ because you have only the one Father in heaven.

1 Peter 1
3 Let us give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! Because of his great mercy he gave us new life by raising Jesus Christ from death. This fills us with a living hope,

Very clear, very concise, very simple. The only one God and Father is the same God and Father Jesus calls his own.

Your foundational understanding of God is wrong.

Now that a proper foundation has been laid, look back to John 1:1 where it says the Word was God.

This is a reference to God the Father, the only one clearly identified as God in the entire Bible. In Genesis 1, God created using words. God created Jesus in John 1:14 and I can add weight to that by proving Jesus was created:

Colossians 1
15 Christ is the visible likeness of the invisible God. He is the first-born Son, superior to all created things.

Romans 8
29 Those whom God had already chosen he also set apart to become like his Son, so that the Son would be the first among many believers.

Case closed.
 
If you don't know Yahusha Messiah is the same YHWH in Man's form then you won't be the one to see God in the age to come.
Jesus being in the exact image of, in the likeness of, in the representation of God is not the same as being God. Man, that is humankind, was created in God's image. Let that sink in for a moment.

Hebrews 5
8 But even though he was God's Son, he learned through his sufferings to be obedient. 9 When he was made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all those who obey him,

So you see, Jesus conformed to the image of God. You need to understand this very plain fundamental truth. Since Jesus got it right, Jesus became the captain of salvation. I really hope you understand this soon.

As a result, we, too, can come to be transformed into the likeness of God, but we don't suddenly become God ourselves:

2 Corinthians 3
18 All of us, then, reflect the glory of the Lord with uncovered faces; and that same glory, coming from the Lord, who is the Spirit, transforms us into his likeness in an ever greater degree of glory.
 
Have you read John 1:1 before? Let's look at it together.

John 1
1 In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

So here we have some very plain information and it's that fundamentally the Word was God Himself.

Now you might want to know who is called God through the Bible.

1 Corinthians 8
6 yet there is for us only one God, the Father, who is the Creator of all things and for whom we live; and there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created and through whom we live.

Ephesians 4
6 there is one God and Father of all people, who is Lord of all, works through all, and is in all.

Matthew 23
9 And you must not call anyone here on earth ‘Father,’ because you have only the one Father in heaven.

1 Peter 1
3 Let us give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! Because of his great mercy he gave us new life by raising Jesus Christ from death. This fills us with a living hope,

Very clear, very concise, very simple. The only one God and Father is the same God and Father Jesus calls his own.

Your foundational understanding of God is wrong.

Now that a proper foundation has been laid, look back to John 1:1 where it says the Word was God.

This is a reference to God the Father, the only one clearly identified as God in the entire Bible. In Genesis 1, God created using words. God created Jesus in John 1:14 and I can add weight to that by proving Jesus was created:

Colossians 1
15 Christ is the visible likeness of the invisible God. He is the first-born Son, superior to all created things.

Romans 8
29 Those whom God had already chosen he also set apart to become like his Son, so that the Son would be the first among many believers.

Case closed.
If you have seen the Son, then you have seen the Father ( John 14:8-9 ) and that's because the ONE GOD is a TRINITY! ( FSHS of Matt.28:19 ) - Even Jesus ( the child to be born ) is called everlasting Father in Isaiah 9:6 -----------------------------

Isaiah 9:6​

New International Version​

6 For to us a child ( Jesus ) is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. ----------------------------------- Case closed! The one True GOD is the TRINITY ( FSHS )!
 
If you have seen the Son, then you have seen the Father ( John 14:8-9 )

That's because all Jesus said and did came from his God. If you see Jesus do something or say something from God then you have effectually seen the Father. Jesus isn't saying that he is God. Please see the below verses.

John 14
10Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words I say to you, I do not speak on My own. Instead, it is the Father dwelling in Me, performing His works.

John 12
49I have not spoken on My own, but the Father who sent Me has commanded Me what to say and how to say it. 50And I know that His command leads to eternal life. So I speak exactly what the Father has told Me to say.”

John 7
16My teaching is not My own,” Jesus replied. “It comes from Him who sent Me.

John 5
19So Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing by Himself, unless He sees the Father doing it. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does. 20The Father loves the Son and shows Him all He does. And to your amazement, He will show Him even greater works than these.

Isaiah 9:6​

New International Version​

6 For to us a child ( Jesus ) is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. ----------------------------------- Case closed! The one True GOD is the TRINITY ( FSHS )!

That doesn't say Jesus is God. If it says anything it says "he will be called" those things, such as you calling him that now. Calling someone a title doesn't make it so. Case closed.
 
Have you read John 1:1 before? Let's look at it together.

John 1
1 In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

So here we have some very plain information and it's that fundamentally the Word was God Himself.

Now you might want to know who is called God through the Bible.

1 Corinthians 8
6 yet there is for us only one God, the Father, who is the Creator of all things and for whom we live; and there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created and through whom we live.

Ephesians 4
6 there is one God and Father of all people, who is Lord of all, works through all, and is in all.

Matthew 23
9 And you must not call anyone here on earth ‘Father,’ because you have only the one Father in heaven.

1 Peter 1
3 Let us give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! Because of his great mercy he gave us new life by raising Jesus Christ from death. This fills us with a living hope,

Very clear, very concise, very simple. The only one God and Father is the same God and Father Jesus calls his own.

Your foundational understanding of God is wrong.

Now that a proper foundation has been laid, look back to John 1:1 where it says the Word was God.

This is a reference to God the Father, the only one clearly identified as God in the entire Bible. In Genesis 1, God created using words. God created Jesus in John 1:14 and I can add weight to that by proving Jesus was created:

Colossians 1
15 Christ is the visible likeness of the invisible God. He is the first-born Son, superior to all created things.

Romans 8
29 Those whom God had already chosen he also set apart to become like his Son, so that the Son would be the first among many believers.

Case closed.
Asinine assertion John 1:1c is clearly referring to The Son, NOT The Father whom The Word was with.
Created Jesus in 1;14???Another asinine statement. The Word incarnated; NOT was created.
NO Bible verse says Jesus was created; He is The Creator.
 
Jesus being in the exact image of, in the likeness of, in the representation of God is not the same as being God. Man, that is humankind, was created in God's image. Let that sink in for a moment.

Hebrews 5
8 But even though he was God's Son, he learned through his sufferings to be obedient. 9 When he was made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all those who obey him,

So you see, Jesus conformed to the image of God. You need to understand this very plain fundamental truth. Since Jesus got it right, Jesus became the captain of salvation. I really hope you understand this soon.

As a result, we, too, can come to be transformed into the likeness of God, but we don't suddenly become God ourselves:

2 Corinthians 3
18 All of us, then, reflect the glory of the Lord with uncovered faces; and that same glory, coming from the Lord, who is the Spirit, transforms us into his likeness in an ever greater degree of glory.
He is both invisible as well as in the visible image:

1Tim 6:
14 that you keep the commandment without spot, blameless, until the appearing of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah;

15 which in its own times he will show, who is the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light; whom no human has seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and eternal power
. Amen.

Now let's see Who is Yahusha Messiah according to ancient manuscript copy in Luke 2:11

ܐܬܝܠܕ ܠܟܘܢ ܓܝܪ ܝܘܡܢܐ ܦܪܘܩܐ ܕܐܝܬܘܗܝ ܡܪܝܐ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܒܡܕܝܢܬܗ ܕܕܘܝܕ
11 For, unto you is born yawmana {today}, in The Madintheh d’Dawiyd {The City of David}, The Pharuqa {The Saviour/The Deliverer}, who is MarYa Meshikha {The Lord-YHWH, The Anointed One}.

He is both Yahuah (YHWH) and The Messiah.

The invisible God cannot be known but by His own expressed image face to face with creation. If you are looking for a God beyond Him, you are in for disappointment. You will never see His face!

Let's see what Yahusha Messiah says about Himself to the pharisees :

Mat 22:

ܘܐܡܪ ܡܢܐ ܐܡܪܝܢ ܐܢܬܘܢ ܥܠ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܒܪ ܡܢܘ ܐܡܪܝܢ ܠܗ ܒܪ ܕܘܝܕ
42 and said, “What do you say about Meshikha {The Anointed One}? Whose Son is He?” They were saying unto Him, “The Son of David.”

ܐܡܪ ܠܗܘܢ ܘܐܝܟܢܐ ܕܘܝܕ ܒܪܘܚ ܩܪܐ ܠܗ ܡܪܝܐ ܐܡܪ ܓܝܪ
43 He said unto them, “And how does David, through The Spirit, call Him 'MarYa {The Lord-YHWH}?' For, he said

ܕܐܡܪ ܡܪܝܐ ܠܡܪܝ ܕܬܒ ܠܟ ܡܢ ܝܡܝܢܝ ܥܕܡܐ ܕܐܣܝܡ ܒܥܠܕܒܒܝܟ ܬܚܝܬ ܪܓܠܝܟ
44 that ‘MarYa {The Lord-YHWH} said unto Mari {My Lord}, that You must sit at My right, until I place Your enemies under Your feet.’”

ܐܢ ܗܟܝܠ ܕܘܝܕ ܩܪܐ ܠܗ ܡܪܝܐ ܐܝܟܢܐ ܒܪܗ ܗܘ
45 If therefore, David calls Him MarYa {The Lord-YHWH}, how is He his Son?”

ܘܠܐ ܐܢܫ ܐܫܟܚ ܕܢܬܠ ܠܗ ܦܬܓܡܐ ܘܠܐ ܐܢܫ ܐܡܪܚ ܬܘܒ ܡܢ ܗܘ ܝܘܡܐ ܠܡܫܐܠܘܬܗ
46 And no one was able to give Him an answer. And no one dared again, from that day, to question Him.

It's quite evident that He is both YHWH and Messiah as there cannot be anyone who can qualify to be The Mediator. Yahuah Himself has to fulfill obedience to the Torah on behalf of Israel as all are under sin and death.

YHWH is in two realms as The Father as invisible Spirit and as The Mediator in equal share in Bodily form (Soul being).

The distinction between The Father and The Son is of Spirit and Soul. For a while, The Son didn't keep His reputation of being equal WITH God as He came as a Servant Israel.

Phil 2:
5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Messiah Yeshua,

6 who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God a thing to be grasped,

7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men.

He is Equal WITH God (God's equal share in the Body).

There is nobody equal to God. But Yahusha Messiah is equal WITH God. - not two persons as Trinitarians teach but is God Himself in Bodily form.
 
FYI, God the Word of John 1:1 became God-Man in John 1:14! Case closed!
God-Man? How will you distinguish His Soul from His Body? How was He God? How is He a Man?

Can you distinguish YHWH and His being as Man in Exodus 15:3?

3 יהוה is a man of battle, יהוה is His Name.

You have to come out of your false Trinitarianism to realise that YHWH is a Man in His whole being.

The same is true of Yahusha Messiah. He is God as a Man.
How is He God? By His being the equal share (Bodily form) of God/YHWH as Spirit.

As I've been asserting you that His Body of flesh wasn't from Adam (from the dust) but rather without hands (without the help of man). His Body was prepared for Him in heaven. Doesn't scripture certify that His Blood is God's own?

Acts 2:28 Watch out for yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Ruach ha-Kodesh has made you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God which he purchased with his own blood.

He is God in Bodily form but for a while His Body was animated by the mortal breath of Adam for death. He died only the first death unlike we all had the sentence of 2nd death in Adam.

Please give up creeds / Catechism that's taught in Christianity based on mixtures of truth and error. Don't divide God from His Body to make Him Godman.
 
There is nobody equal to God. But Yahusha Messiah is equal WITH God.
If Jesus is equal with God, then why is he not equal in the following verses?

John 14
28You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I.

1 Corinthians 15
27For “God has put everything under His feet.” Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him.

Hebrews 1
9You have loved righteousness
and hated wickedness;
therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
above Your companions with the oil of joy.”

not two persons as Trinitarians teach but is God Himself in Bodily form.

If they aren't two persons then can you explain why Jesus would pray to God, have conversations with God, call his Father his God, receive power and/or authority from God, receive doctrines from God, receive basic instructions from God, why Jesus has a different will than God, and why the Father knows things that Jesus doesn't know? I can back all of that up right now with verses. Doesn't that sound like they are two different persons to you?
 
If Jesus is equal with God, then why is he not equal in the following verses?

John 14
28You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I.

1 Corinthians 15
27For “God has put everything under His feet.” Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him.

Hebrews 1
9You have loved righteousness
and hated wickedness;
therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
above Your companions with the oil of joy.”



If they aren't two persons then can you explain why Jesus would pray to God, have conversations with God, call his Father his God, receive power and/or authority from God, receive doctrines from God, receive basic instructions from God, why Jesus has a different will than God, and why the Father knows things that Jesus doesn't know? I can back all of that up right now with verses. Doesn't that sound like they are two different persons to you?
Don't you understand that it's in Mediatorship His Father is greater than Him?

You are not able to understand that He is representing Israel as the firstborn son. It's Israel which is kept under tutors and fleshly ordinances of the Torah till the time of its redemption:

Gal 4:
1 But I say that so long as the heir is a child, he is no different from a slave, though he is lord of all;

2 but is under guardians and stewards until the day appointed by the father.

3 So we also, when we were children, were held in bondage under the elemental principles of the world.

4 But when the fullness of the time came, God sent out his Son, born to a woman, born under the law,

5 that he might redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of children.

I think this is the area everyone stumbles at the Rock of Offence. They don't understand what Phil 2:5-7 speaks:

Phil 2:
Have this in your mind, which was also in Messiah Yeshua,

6 who, existing in the form of God,
did not consider equality with God a thing to be grasped,

7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men.

BTW, Who will be called Father of eternity in Isaiah 9:6?

God is in reality transitioning from invisible Spirit through His Mediatorship to be permanently in Bodily form to be called Father of eternity

Apostle Paul gave some hints in Colossians:

Col 2: 9 For in him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,

But it's fully realised in Rev 21:3-7:

3 I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look, the tabernacle of God is with humans, and he will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.

7 He who overcomes, I will give him these things. I will be his God, and he will be my son.

Tabernacle is His Bodily form foreshadowed by the Tabernacle which Moses pitched and Temple in Jerusalem.

When Yahusha Messiah was in the days of His ministry, there were parallelly two Temples in service. One was Physical Temple built by hands and The Other Temple made without hands which is Yahusha Messiah Himself - Immanuel!

The Ministry of The Son is no longer required in the age to come and it will be The Father of eternity as Isaiah 9:6 says.
 
If Jesus is equal with God, then why is he not equal in the following verses?

John 14
28You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I.

1 Corinthians 15
27For “God has put everything under His feet.” Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him.

Hebrews 1
9You have loved righteousness
and hated wickedness;
therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
above Your companions with the oil of joy.”



If they aren't two persons then can you explain why Jesus would pray to God, have conversations with God, call his Father his God, receive power and/or authority from God, receive doctrines from God, receive basic instructions from God, why Jesus has a different will than God, and why the Father knows things that Jesus doesn't know? I can back all of that up right now with verses. Doesn't that sound like they are two different persons to you?
Jesus prayed to The Father and has the SAME will as The Father.
The Father has put everything under The Son's feet.
Can't find the passage which says The Son received power and authority from The Father.
 
Jesus prayed to The Father and has the SAME will as The Father.
False.

John 5
30 I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.

John 6
38For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me.

Matthew 26
42A second time He went away and prayed, “My Father, if this cup cannot pass unless I drink it, may Your will be done.”

The Father has put everything under The Son's feet.
The Father did not put Himself on Jesus' feet because God is greater than Jesus.

John 14
28You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I.

Can't find the passage which says The Son received power and authority from The Father.
Matthew 28
18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.

Ephesians 1
15For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, 16I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers, 17that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in your knowledge of Him.

18I ask that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you may know the hope of His calling, the riches of His glorious inheritance in the saints, 19and the surpassing greatness of His power to us who believe. These are in accordance with the working of His mighty strength, 20which He exerted in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly realms, 21far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.

22And God put everything under His feet and made Him head over everything for the church, 23which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

Matthew 11
27All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.

Philippians 2
9Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place
and gave Him the name above all names,
 
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