Kade Rystalmane
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Very! Love the dogwoods all over the place.My wife, daughter and I were in TN this summer. My wife always wanted to go to Dollywood so we drove from Albuquerque (not all at once of course lol). Stayed a couple of nights in Nashville and a few nights in Pigeon Forge. Spent a few days in the Great Smokey Mountain National Park and hiked a little bit of the Appalachian Trail. Beautiful area!
I'm cool with the NKJV.I have always liked the RSV but have recently been using the NKJV. The Orthodox Study Bible uses the NKJV New Testament and the Septuagint for the Old Testament.
I understand. Again, I'm not really here to argue with you about your faith, but I'm happy to answer questions about mine since you asked.Sure. As an Orthodox Christian, I don't see where that verse teaches the Bible alone? When looking at verse 10-15 you can see that St. Paul is first appealing to what St. Timothy learned (from St. Paul himself) then St. Paul reminds St. Timothy of the Scriptures of his childhood, which of course would be the Old Testament since the whole of the New Testament had not been written yet. We Orthodox would see this as an appeal to Tradition, what was not only taught but what was also written.
We believe that Paul was divinely inspired and that what he wrote was scripture so his teachings were equivalent to scripture. We also believe that the immediate, personal, supernatural indwelling of the Holy Spirit was for the establishment period of the church during the first century and no longer happens today. Today, the indwelling of the Father, Son, and Spirit are in our hearts by faith (Eph. 3:17; John 14:23).
We believe that 2 Tim. 3:16-17 refers to both Old and New Testament scripture, even those that hadn't been written yet (of the 66 books we have now). We also believe that a significant portion of the NT had been written not only before 2 Timothy was written, but considering Timothy's youth, written early enough for him to be brought up on. Timothy might even have been born at the time of or after the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus and never lived in the Old Testament age. The reason we believe this is because of what effect the scriptures had on Timothy in verse 15.It seems if this these verses proved the Bible alone, it would prove Old Testament alone. This of course is the Orthodox interpretation of 2 Timothy 3.
"able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus."
The Old Testament could not save and spoke only of the coming Messiah prophetically. It is the gospel (the NT) that speaks of salvation in Jesus specifically and salvation through obedient faith in Him.
I hope that makes sense what I am saying.