Fenuay
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I was talking about the millennium not the past.Any idea how many young girls have been married off to older men because of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young?
I was talking about the millennium not the past.Any idea how many young girls have been married off to older men because of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young?
That’s the way it was set up in mormonism. That’s the way it was intended to continue.I was talking about the millennium not the past.
I think Brigham Young and Joseph Smith were the cultivators of that behavior and it no longer continues today in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In offshoots, yes. Polygamy is still spiritually practiced but young girls are not married off even though parents can in many states sign off for their teens to be married.That’s the way it was set up in mormonism. That’s the way it was intended to continue.
It was temporarily suspended in mormonism, but the plan is for it to be reinstated at some point.I think Brigham Young and Joseph Smith were the cultivators of that behavior and it no longer continues today in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In offshoots, yes. Polygamy is still spiritually practiced but young girls are not married off even though parents can in many states sign off for their teens to be married.
Do you have proof of this? I have only even heard that it was ended. I've never heard that it is to be reinstated ever. I would be interested to hear about that.It was temporarily suspended in mormonism, but the plan is for it to be reinstated at some point.
My point was simply.that.marriages will not occur in heaven after the resurrection. I believe there is something fundamentally wrong with entering a relationship if u wait untill u know everything about the person before u marry them. The whole prospect of marriage is learning to work together and in many cases learning to love someone when there are things they do that u hate .
I think that one problem is that all humans are fallible. The prophet, the pope, preachers, all of us. So while some people hold the pope or Mormon prophets as infallible that is where it seems later that they are throwing them under the bus. I do agree however there did seem to be a sense of infallibility of the prophet when I was Mormon.So let me see if I understand you...
Brigham Young (who was a "prophet", as I understand it), taught false teachings, but you teach absolute infallible FACT (like, "marriages will NOT occur in heaven after the resurrection".
That's one of the many problems with Mormonism. They throw their leaders under the bus, and everyone has their own novel teachings. God is not the god of confusion.
I think that one problem is that all humans are fallible. The prophet, the pope, preachers, all of us. So while some people hold the pope or Mormon prophets as infallible that is where it seems later that they are throwing them under the bus. I do agree however there did seem to be a sense of infallibility of the prophet when I was Mormon.
You are probably right. But I think today people probably would have rejected Smith all the way around. At least I think most people, save for a few weak minded ones.Maybe you miss the irony.
All of Mormonism is an abomination, and all their "professors" ("prophets") are all corrupt.
If Joseph Smith was alive today, God will have told him to join NONE of the Mormon sects, and follow NONE of the Mormon prophets.
Double standards abound.
You are entitled to your opinion, but there are a lot of arranged marriages that wouldn't agree with you. It has worked very well for a very long time. But there are no arranged marriages in the Millennium and I don't believe we teach that there will be.Arranged marriages are not relationsips.
Arranged without the consent of the "young girl"? None.Any idea how many young girls have been married off to older men because of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young?
Again, you are entitled to your opinion, but that does not make it fact. There are no arranged marriages that I'm aware of that did not require the consent of the woman.That’s the way it was set up in mormonism. That’s the way it was intended to continue.
gaslighting. What does Brigham Young's teachings have to do with what I said and when did I ever state mine are absolute infallible FACT?Brigham Young (who was a "prophet", as I understand it), taught false teachings, but you teach absolute infallible FACT (like, "marriages will NOT occur in heaven after the resurrection".
gaslighting. What does Brigham Young's teachings have to do with what I said and when did I ever state mine are absolute infallible FACT?
12-14 years olds are not women. They’re children.Again, you are entitled to your opinion, but that does not make it fact. There are no arranged marriages that I'm aware of that did not require the consent of the woman.
Since when can young girls give consent? Their brains aren’t even fully developed yet.Arranged without the consent of the "young girl"? None.
Still gaslighting. I have never made the claim for infallibility. Disagreeing with your ideas about what we believe is not a claim to infallibility.Do you admit that you (who is not a "prophet") could possibly be wrong?
Because your posts don't indicate that as any kind of possibility.
I'm sure that they are. I believe your arguments are based on presentism. I'm still waiting for the evidence that this is the "plan" when we return to polygamy. Until that surfaces then it's just your opinion. Also, where is the evidence that any of these women did not consent or agree with the marriage?12-14 years olds are not women. They’re children.
Since when can young girls give consent? Their brains aren’t even fully developed yet.
The male brain is even slower to develop, which explains a lot of things.
This is an open door that I refuse to go through, but again, your opinion on the subject is irrelevant. I just took a stab on the internet for the age when the brain is fully developed and came up with a consensus that it isn't fully developed until the age of 25 which means that almost all first marriages are made by people without fully developed brains not that it makes any difference.