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Sorry, the verse does NOT have "the Devil" in the text.
And there's no reason to think it isn't about the God of Abraham.
ROFLOL, of course there is, for if it were speaking of the God of Abraham, it wouldn't have called him only the god of this age, limiting him to this age and not to eternity.
Furthermore, what makes this more ridiculous yet, is the fact that if Paul were speaking of God, he wouldn't even have called him anything else but God, "for God has blinded the eyes of them which believe not lest the light of the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ who is the image of God should shine unto them".
Here's something you would do well to read:
Not interested, for I don't go by human reasoning and bias when I read scriptures and seek the truth in them.
Wrong again.
Rom. 9:5 ... is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. (ESV).
Rom. 9:5 ... the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever! (NET)
Rom. 9:5 ... the Messiah, who is God over all, praised forever. (HCSB)
So what, for there are other translators who translate it correctly and then it is saying that "Jesus is over all God blessed forever amen".
Sorry but I don't interpret the scriptures through the rules of men or what men say the rules are but by the Spirit and like the scriptures teach we are suppose to also.Sorry, you clearly don't understand Sharp's Rule.
You would have "God and Father" (Rom. 15:6) refer to two different people (because of the "kai").
You would have "Lord and Savior" (2Pet 1:1) refer to two different people (because of the "kai").
You would have "my brother and fellow worker and fellow soldier" refer to three different people (because of the "kai").
Furthermore, my answers have really nothing to do with sharps rules anyhow, for he omits the words "righteousness of" in 2 Peter 1:1 and "glory of" in Titus 2:13 and only focusses on "our God and Savior" or "our Great God and Savior" and whether it is referring to one or two persons by the use of the word "kai" or "and" in both passages.
That is his mistake and as I said, you are going to face the hard facts that these rules really don't help you when it is all said and done.
Nope, sorry... That's not how it works.
Oh really? Sorry is right, for it doesn't work according to how you say it does with all of your worthless academic human reasoning with it, and the training of which also the Apostle Paul called "dung" in Philippians 3 likewise.
When we have two singular personal nouns, of the same case, connected by "kai", and only the first one has the article, both nouns refer to the same person.
ROFLOL, this is what I was saying already in the above, for I agree that it is only speaking of one person in both 2 Peter 1:1 and Titus 2:13, for it is speaking of Jesus in both and in 2 Peter 1:1 he is calling Jesus "The righteousness of our God and Savior" and in Titus 2:13 he is calling him "the glory of our Great God and Savior" as titles and he is not calling Jesus God in either.
Therefore sharps rule doesn't even refute the truth in it anyhow, for indeed it is speaking titles that Jesus has obtained of God and therefore it is only speaking of him as having these titles.
So "our God and Lord" (2 Thess. 1:12) refers to ONE person, Jesus Christ.
Nope, Jesus is being called "our great God and Saviour", whose glory we will see (since it is Christ who will be appearing, not the Father).
Nope, he is called "the glory of our Great God and Savior" and this is all and the same as Paul calling him "the image of the invisible God" in Colossians 1:15 and they are titles for Jesus because God's image and glory are revealed through Jesus and just like Jesus himself revealed in John 14:10 and Peter also in Acts 2:22.
Nope.
According to Sharp's rule, "God and Saviour" both refer to Jesus.
ROFLOL, sorry but it doesn't apply, for I also believe both "the glory or our Great God and Savior and "the righteousness of our God and Savior" are titles for one person and that person is Jesus Christ but neither are calling Jesus The God himself.
You're simply in denial because you don't know the underlying Greek, and your theological bias is blinding you.
And you are soon enough going to find out that all of that "underlying Greek" bias knowledge that you are substituting for the wisdom that the Holy Spirit teaches (see 1 Corinthians 2:13-16) will not help you at the end of the age when it is all over and said and done.
You can mark those words.