Defilement at the Praetorium... oops!

Open Heart said:
They do go away. Generally speaking, I don't have problems with obsessions. Apparently you do. So what do YOU do when your wicked thoughts won't go away?
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I take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Whatever is good or honorable and of good report, I focus on those things... If those two don't work, I ask YHWH to take those thoughts and smash them in the face of any evil spirit planting them in my mind and kick him out of my presence... These work quickly and efficiently...
 
Yodas_Prodigy said:
I take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Whatever is good or honorable and of good report, I focus on those things... If those two don't work, I ask YHWH to take those thoughts and smash them in the face of any evil spirit planting them in my mind and kick him out of my presence... These work quickly and efficiently...
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Does that work for you?
 
Yodas_Prodigy said:
I take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Whatever is good or honorable and of good report, I focus on those things... If those two don't work, I ask YHWH to take those thoughts and smash them in the face of any evil spirit planting them in my mind and kick him out of my presence... These work quickly and efficiently...
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So, you don't sin anymore?

Why don't you just go to YHWH since the first option isn't 100%?
 
Jewjitzu said:
So, you don't sin anymore?

Why don't you just go to YHWH since the first option isn't 100%?
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I still sin... That is why I am in need of a Savior.

From the Christian POV, there are two challenges to living a righteous life. The first is the fleshly challenges. The second are attacks from the spiritual relm.
We have a responsibility in the sanctification process. Like Paul, there are times we have to beat down our fleshly desires or responses. Our battles are not always against flesh and blood, but spiritual principalities who oppose YHWH... This is where we lean upon YHWH...
 
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Yodas_Prodigy said:
I still sin... That is why I am in need of a Savior.
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Then your two options previously that you gave didn't help. I don't know why you asked then how Jews deal with wicked thoughts, making it sound like we're doomed, when you're struggling yourself.

Yodas_Prodigy said:
From the Christian POV, there are two challenges to living a righteous life. The first is the fleshly challenges. The second are attacks from the spiritual relm.
We have a responsibility in the sanctification process. Like Paul, there are times we have to beat down our fleshly desires or responses. Our battles are not always against flesh and blood, but spiritual principalities who oppose YHWH... This is where we lean upon YHWH...
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And this is where we part. I don't put stock on blaming any "forces". We're our own Satan, which just means adversary. The buck stops with individuals.

You want to change? Develop good habits and patterns and the old self will change. It's a life long process. That's called walking, not standing still, with God.
 
Jewjitzu said:
Then your two options previously that you gave didn't help. I don't know why you asked then how Jews deal with wicked thoughts, making it sound like we're doomed, when you're struggling yourself.
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None of us is perfect in that. Our goal is to become more like Christ each day... The two options do work... It is a matter of using them and relying on Christ...


Jewjitzu said:
And this is where we part. I don't put stock on blaming any "forces". We're our own Satan, which just means adversary. The buck stops with individuals.
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Yes, the buck stops with individuals...

So he said, ‘I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ And the Lord said, ‘You shall persuade him, and also prevail. Go out and do so.’

Jewjitzu said:
You want to change? Develop good habits and patterns and the old self will change. It's a life long process. That's called walking, not standing still, with God.
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Sanctification...
 
Yodas_Prodigy said:
None of us is perfect in that. Our goal is to become more like Christ each day... The two options do work... It is a matter of using them and relying on Christ...
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No, rely on God, not a man.

Psalm 146:3
Put not your trust in princes, Nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Jesus couldn't save himself, and has knees and a tongue that will confess the true God and Savior in the future.

Yodas_Prodigy said:
Yes, the buck stops with individuals...
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We agree here.

Yodas_Prodigy said:
So he said, ‘I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ And the Lord said, ‘You shall persuade him, and also prevail. Go out and do so.’
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Yep. False prophets teach lots of things, ie, man-god, false hope, abrogation, etc.

Yodas_Prodigy said:
Sanctification...
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Obedience.

Anyway, if you want to talk about Jesus' defilement, the point of the OP, we can continue our discourse.
 
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