Jewjitzu
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That's unfortunate as even Jesus taught to pray to the Father only.... Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name... not our name.
Matthew 6:9 does not forbid praying to the Lord Jesus
Matthew 6:9 Pray, then, in this way: Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. (NASB) The Lord Jesus also taught that He is the proper recipient of prayer in John 14:14. The earliest Christians obeyed Him by offering prayer to Him, and they taught others to do so...
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Yahchristian
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You say this statement is TRUE...
Paul knew the Spirit of Jesus BELONGED TO Jesus.
Are you seriously unable to say which of these statements is TRUE?
A) Paul knew the Spirit of Jesus WAS Jesus.
B) Paul knew the Spirit of Jesus was NOT Jesus.
Jewjitzu
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Yep, calling on the name of the LORD is not calling on Jesus.
You can't have two masters, especially when one has knees and a tongue that will confess the other as the one true God.
Yes, it is (Acts 2:21; Romans 10:13, etc.)
Jewjitzu
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Yehoshua means YH is salvation, who isn't a man. Remember, Jesus couldn't save himself, let alone anyone else. He cried for salvation, Hebrews 5:7.
Psalm 146:3
You are dodging Acts 2:21 and Romans 10:13.
Jewjitzu
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Doesn't call out Jesus.
Yep, v9 says God saved him from the dead, clearly someone else.
https://forums.carm.org/threads/yhwh-the-lord.7799/page-5#post-543262
Thanks for mentioning verse 9 because all the pronouns and titles from v. 13 go back to v. p - in reference to Jesus.
https://forums.carm.org/threads/paul-applies-yhwh-from-joel-3-5-lxx-unto-the-lord-jesus-in-romans-10-13.7415/
Jewjitzu
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That's great. The problem is someone other than himself saved him from the grave. That person is the ultimate salvation.
Having a godly name doesn't imply divinity. Examples are all throughout Tanakh.
Yes, because it proves He is God.
Incorrect.
Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (TDNT): The idea of the self-resurrection of Jesus is first found in Johannine theology (Jn. 2:19, 21; 10:17, 18) (2:335, egeirō, Oepke).
Jewjitzu
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Sorry a god that requires salvation from another isn't much of a god. His knees will bow and tongue confess...
And? Does he not have knees and a tongue, and prayed for deliverance?
Nope. He is the one who saves.
Since He is the proper recipient of prayer proves He is God.
Jewjitzu
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Not while he has knees and a tongue.
Actually, he prays to the Father, but that form of worship isn't reciprocated. That should tell you something.
Also, Jesus has knees...
Irrelevant.
As any man should.
The Father never became a man.
It tells me that since Jesus is the proper recipient of worship proves He is God.
See my first response.
Jewjitzu
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Why worship someone that will be kneeling next to you and confessing someone else as God?
You will one day be kneeling and confessing that Jesus is God.
The fear of the Lord (YHWH) = The fear of the Lord (Jesus)
Just curious, have you done a search in the NT to see if every reference of "Lord" applies to Jesus? Good post, btw. Hi Caroljeen, Every reference of kyrios in the New Testament does not apply to Jesus. The Father is referred to as kyrios in James 3:9. Pilate is referred to as such in...
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Jewjitzu
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Not while he has the same knees and tongue that I have.
Neither you nor he can escape this.
An assertion without proof.
He doesn't have to, and I already have because He is my Lord and Savior as well as my God and King.
He will rule and reign forever.
Jewjitzu
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Are you denying he has knees and a tongue?
He'll be kneeling with rest of us. He's already done it in the past.