The gospel in Genesis.

[Leatherneck0311]

Dude he's pointing out the hole in your game, that's all, relax.

The only thing he’s pointing to IMO is himself.

 

[Leatherneck0311]

He’s upset as he’s claiming he said God failed.
That’s the hatchet he wants to carry around as if he has something. I say, knock yourself out!

edit per mod You said I said God failed and I didn’t.

 

[Ladodgers6]

The only thing he’s pointing to IMO is himself.

We're debating here, so there's no crying in baseball. So, let's debate.

 

[Carbon]

Can you repost this because not all of your comments were posted.

What? The statement, “no one goes to the…” makes no sense to you?
Oh I think it does, just along with others things he says.

 

[Leatherneck0311]

Can you repost this because not all of your comments were posted.

Look at post 648

 

[Carbon]

Another lie ! You said I said God failed and I didn’t.

Well if I said you said that….

1) I had my reasons
2) you misunderstood me.

A) get over it

 

[Leatherneck0311]

What? The statement, “no one goes to the…” makes no sense to you?
Oh I think it does, just along with others things he says.

Lol, I am on an iPhone not the easiest way to post.

 

[Ladodgers6]

Grace precedes faith. No one goes to the Father unless son draws him John 14:6

Thank you, for replying. Why does Grace precede Faith?

 

[Leatherneck0311]

Well if I said you said that….

1) I had my reasons
2) you misunderstood me.

A) get over it

Another words in good Calvinist form a lie is ok if you say it is.

 

[Leatherneck0311]

Thank you, for replying. Why does Grace precede Faith?

No grace no payment for sin no escape from darkness. Faith without grace is empty faith.

 

[Carbon]

No grace no payment for sin no escape from darkness. Faith without grace is empty faith.

Wait I have to get my reading glasses for this one. ?

 

[Leatherneck0311]

And free willers are bound by unbiblical free will humanism.

instead of worshipping Mary they worship their free will idol.
They practice their free will false oral Traditions.
As some believe they can loose their salvation, they live purgatory here on earth.
.

So God forced you to believe ? You had zero input in your decision to believe , repent, and trust God ?

 

[Ladodgers6]

And free willers are bound by unbiblical free will humanism.

So God forced you to believe ? You had zero input in your decision to believe , repent, and trust God ?

God's Grace of the Spirit that makes us alive in Christ to believe.

 

[Carbon]

So God forced you to believe ? You had zero input in your decision to believe , repent, and trust God ?

Absolutely not! God didn’t force anyone to believe.

Would you really want to talk about this?
Or is this another meaningless note from your grabbag?

 

[Theo1689]

And free willers are bound by unbiblical free will humanism.

So God forced you to believe ?

Please quote ONE Calvinist who has taught "God forced you to believe".
It is NOT something we believe or teach.

You had zero input in your decision to believe , repent, and trust God ?

Did you have any input in your decision to be born?
For that matter, did you have any input in your decision to be conceived?
What is your obsession with having "control" over everything in the world.
You do know you're not God, right?

 

[Leatherneck0311]

Wait I have to get my reading glasses for this one. ?

Lol, I guess you missed the reference to Ephesians 2:8,9. For by grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is a gift of God not of works lest any man should boast. Grace was the gift faith is you believing or rejecting truth.

 

[Ladodgers6]

No grace no payment for sin no escape from darkness. Faith without grace is empty faith.

This is very ambiguous; can you expand it further for us?

 

[Carbon]

Lol, I guess you missed the reference to Ephesians 2:8,9. For by grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is a gift of God not of works lest any man should boast. Grace was the gift faith is you believing or rejecting truth.

IMO you have no idea what that passage is teaching.

trying to help

 

[Leatherneck0311]

God's Grace of the Spirit that makes us alive in Christ to believe.

I never said nor implied that anyone goes to God without the Holy Spirit convicting that person, but some quench the Holy Spirit preferring their sin over God. God does not force folks to believe.

 

[Carbon]

God does not force folks to believe.

Haha. I agree!