Brother, I have not changed my story. You are now beginning to realize what I meant after I responded to your posts. You are not there yet.
Joe, I have no desire to go over the points discussed since we started this discussion again and again. If you want to believe that the passage in Hebrews was written to everyone including the unbelievers and reprobate, I’m fine with that. I still stand on what I said.
And God does not only communicate to believers as you suggested. He talks to ALL people, believers and unbelievers alike.
Since you insist on this point, and I’m not saying, your wrong Joe, then show me a passage where it teaches such. I believe He will talk to all people, judgement is coming and there is divine providence. But scripture, is written to believers. When the words brethren, loved of God, chosen are used its even more obvious.
And I will answer the question asked of you; God's Word is never dead nor inactive.
Are you mixing me up with someone else? Why do you insist on repeating yourself here? When did I say it was? This is a good hump for you to get over before we proceed, if proceeding is your intention.
If your argument is God’s word being alive and active then there never was a debate. Maybe your debating with yourself? If you read my posts you would see I don’t disagree with this point.
12-13 is universal in application, in that no matter who you are or your salvation status, God's Word when preached will invoke a response because it is living and active, exposing the thoughts and intent of the heart.
And you continue to stress your point. Every believe would agree God’s word is alive and active. But the passage you picked is to believers. It is not to unbelievers. Again, read Hebrews in context, start at ch 3 concerning the point your trying to prove. I’ll start you out:
Hebrews 3:1,
Therefore, holy brothers, you who share in a heavenly calling, consider Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession,
And that is why we preach it, as I originally said which sparked you to debate. You argued it was for believers only, and it is not.
I believe two things are happening here Joe.
1) your missing my point. Since you are a free willer, I can understand why you would be stressing certain points.
2) I understand why you are so persistent. It’s another avenue where free willers, at least the thinkers like yourself, believe they can set the grounds for prevenient grace.
I hope you understand and agree with the Apostle Peter that you were "born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which lives and abides forever."
Thanks Joe, yes I do. But read 1 Peter again Joe. Your missing the whole point of it. The gospel is the power of salvation …… Which is to be proclaimed to the world.
The believers are taught, warned and built up by the word of God throughout scripture, it’s one reason scripture was written.
I have adequately proven that God's Word is alive and active no matter one's status of salvation.
No one denies that Joe.
And that because it is such, it will invoke a response one way or another within the hearer, belief or unbelief. And we are to preach it indiscriminately so all can hear and perhaps believe.
Do you think scripture that points out to who it is written to don’t mean what it says? There are just to many places to quote. But here is one:
1 Peter 1:1,
Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who are elect exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood:
May grace and peace be multiplied to you.
Would you show me how this is written to unbelievers as well?
Thank you for the civil discourse. It can get ugly on the board once in while!
God bless
Yes it can get ugly. And thank you as well.