Your own chosen misunderstanding, because you cannot understand your own being. In His image you are three...each playing a cosmic, interactive role. Your spirit is not your soul...it is from God and returns to God. Your body is not your soul...It is dust and will return to dust. Your soul makes the choices whom you will serve and your body will obey the decision. When your soul is prompted by the Spirit of God, then you are set apart to do His will, and the eyes of the Lord search the earth to and fro to find one such.
So, since our body is dust how does that match with your gods body? Since our soul dies, how does that match your gods soul? And since our spirit isn't ours, how does that match your gods spirit?
Since woman was created from man, who in your godhead was created from the other?
Where's your gods physical tzelem?
Only One speaks. You have never understood the passage, nor read it as it is written.
So you have two death mutes as partners? You're scrambling around and not answering. You said your gods had one body and are a unity, but they end up with 3 bodies and disunited in Genesis 18.
We have Elohenu in our Trinity. Translations clearly err according to the preconceptions of the translator...The KJV was one of the precious few that would allow the original text to speak, even to following Greek syntax at times to allow the reader to understand and explore.
Again, context determines the meaning of words and Elo-him is definitely singular in Genesis 1:26-27. Have you heard of Dr. Michael Heiser from Logos bible software? Check out what he has to say about the morphology of elohim and how context determines the meaning.
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As noted above, elohim is morphologically plural. Morphology refers to the "shape" or construction of a word - its form. As far as meaning, though, elohim can be either singular or plural depending on context. As anyone who has taken a language can testify, meaning is determined by context, not by a list of glosses in a dictionary (which are only OPTIONS – the translator must look to context for accuracy).
More specifically, the meaning of any occurrence of elohim must be discerned in three ways:
A. Grammatical indications elsewhere in the text that help to determine if a singular or plural meaning is meant.
B. Grammatical rules in Hebrew that are true in the language as a whole.
C. Historical / Logical context.
To illustrate, consider words in English such as:
"deer", "sheep", "fish" - the point is you need other words to help you tell if one or more than one of these animals is meant. Sometimes these other words are verbs that help you tell. Compare the two examples::
1) "The sheep is lost" - the word "is" is a singular verb (It goes with a singular subject; one wouldn't say, for example, "I are lost" - you would use a verb that goes with the singular subject ("I am lost").
2) "The sheep are lost" - the word "are" is a plural verb (again, another word next to our noun "sheep" tells us in this case that plural sheep are meant.
All of this is just basic grammar - and every language has grammar. Biblical Hebrew has its own ways of telling us if elohim means ONE person or many gods. It matches the noun elohim to singular or plural verbs, or with singular or plural pronouns (to use "sheep" again as an example:
"Those sheep are white"). The word "those" is what's called a demonstrative pronoun - it automatically tells us that sheep in this sentence is meant to be understood as a plural.
Check out his paper at sitchin is wrong site.
Maybe...or the plural is justified for the sake of the paradox, the mystery of the Godhead Who must needs be beyond comprehension, and this discussion. We know that, but for the case of the Godhead, the plural always applies when there are more than one. Happily, there is no New Millennial aberrant club that seeks to identify the group as "he".
That's a great idea for us...
It doesn't look like you understand context very well. You're admitting to 3 gods and it's quite hilarious.
Might have been/could have been used. Not necessarily. It's tacit recognition. The three of you, body and soul and spirit, approved this sentence, and yet I would never say "I'm glad you three wrote this."
There's only one me.
You undertook to respond, the spirit researched and brought together insights, and your fingers typed it. BTW..."more than one alone in a group..." makes no sense at all. No one is alone in a group...
The point is "bad" in Hebrew means alone. Depending on the ending, the meaning is exclusively alone as one, or individuals alone as part of a group. No verse where scripture says God is alone shows the plural form for "bad".
You're denying that you misunderstand my every post, and return to a false accusation. There is only One God Elohenu.
That would be 3 gods since you're grasping at a plural meaning for elohim. It's not 3 oranges.
Invention. You have zero scripture...
Psalm 104:3 says angels are fire and wind. Where do you see this in the creation accounts?
Mine say you are actually inaccurate, and mine actually quote Elohenu directly:
We see above that angels are forces of nature, the elements, etc. Dirt would be an angel, as would be water, wind, etc., all commanded by God.
4Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? He. Singular.
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5Who fixed its measurements? Surely you know! I know who. Do you?
Or who stretched a measuring line across it?I know. Do you?
6On what were its foundations set,
or who laid its cornerstone,Do you know?
7while the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?Who are these? Where did they come from? All I know is, this is an audience, not a group of collaborating participants. They do not supply the answer to ANY of the above questions.
Psalm 69:34
Let heaven and earth praise him, the seas and all that move in them... creation has been singing for a while. Creation speaks of His glory.
Umm...God spoke...The Word is what got spoken, living and active, and sharper than a two edged sword...and stop being disingenuous. The "wind" is the ruach/spirit. Don't be blind, but seeing.
The Father spoke the words, not the word spoke the words.
Read it again: HE spoke. to tohu wa bohu, formlessness and void, sans image and sans likeness...Creation was not until He spoke the Word.
Read v2. The earth was formless and void... your contradicted.
Please read it again...I didn't suggest you "forced" anything. You are obligated by your unwillingness to read to invent stuff from whole cloth.
Rotfl... this is funny considering you've made up spirit form, word body, etc.
The Word is very clearly a person. God does not submit to your limits, and the problem is not mine.
Find in Tanakh where dabar, word, is used for a person. You're the one with the problem.
Your claim is one thing. Your words suggest otherwise and belie the claim.
Nope...You have insisted on interpreting my words this way. I have never "defined" elohenu as "physical" anything. I have pointed out what the Tenach has written...and my understanding does not forcibly begin, as yours does, with denial. I have shown you Who created all things...you are stuck with your false accusations. That's OK...I'm here for that.
You're quite dishonest tbeachhead and flip flop all over the place. You believe in plural gods with the understanding of plural elohim; your gods have 3 bodies in Genesis 18, not one as you've said, you can't define spirit form but yet I'm supposed to believe in it; you've said your gods have a real tzelem but say it's not physical but man's tzelem is physical and like your gods, etc. Your just dishonest all over.
Unlike the prophets, I've never been in the spirit to be qualified to define...but I have Daniel's and the prophets' descriptions. As I said, that remains the best I can do. I do not invent...
You've made up everything and are unequiped to defend your point here. All visions and riddles.
Here's what I do know: "13Behold, My Servant will prosper;
He will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted.
14Just as many were appalled at Him—
His appearance was disfigured beyond that of any man,
and His form was marred beyond human likeness—
15so He will sprinkle many nations.
Kings will shut their mouths because of Him.
For they will see what they have not been told,
and they will understand what they have not heard.
Yep. Israel is called out as the servant in Isaiah.
Your knee will bow and your tongue will eventually confess. As is was foreseen, foreknown and foretold.
Jesus has already done all of this towards the Father. He fulfilled this prophecy already and will again