Just as the Constitution doesn't say everyone has the right to abortion...

... it also doesn't say everyone has the right to own a gun.

Discuss.
None of the rights say "everyone" has access to them unless you can show otherwise. What the constitution does finish imply it's citizens have the enumerated rights listed within it. But by your reasoning it also doesn't specify who has a right to a gun that's why they can refuse gun ownership to felons.
 
... it also doesn't say everyone has the right to own a gun.

Discuss.

That's correct. It says, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
 
Maybe "the people" doesnt include everyone?

The Constitution itself says, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." - Clearly "the people" doesn't include EVERYONE, since there was significant opposition to the Constitution among some folks.

It's speaking in general terms. Of course back then, "the people" didn't include black Americans.
 
The Constitution itself says, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." - Clearly "the people" doesn't include EVERYONE, since there was significant opposition to the Constitution among some folks.

It's speaking in general terms. Of course back then, "the people" didn't include black Americans.
The point is Mikey was making and inane argument
 
In theory, the US could pass a federal law outlawing private ownership / possession of all firearms except the musket, and this would still be consistent with the Second Amendment.
 
In theory, the US could pass a federal law outlawing private ownership / possession of all firearms except the musket, and this would still be consistent with the Second Amendment.
This assumes "arms" can only refer to muskets, and assuming this doesn't prove it.
 
The Constitution itself says, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." - Clearly "the people" doesn't include EVERYONE, since there was significant opposition to the Constitution among some folks.
Opposition doesn't exclude them from these liberties unless they act to oppose them.
It's speaking in general terms. Of course back then, "the people" didn't include black Americans.
What brings you to this conclusion?
 
Opposition doesn't exclude them from these liberties unless they act to oppose them.

What brings you to this conclusion?

The fact that they didn’t have rights. They couldn’t vote. They were counted as 3/5 of a person. They were not protected by the Constitution.
 
The fact that they didn’t have rights. They couldn’t vote.
That's one right they didn't have. There were free black men though. Some even owned slaves.
They were counted as 3/5 of a person.
Only insofar as it related to political representation. They were still viewed as a complete person.
They were not protected by the Constitution.
False. Slaves have always enjoyed the protections that come with any system that respects private property.
 
Slaves had essentially no constitutional rights. They couldn't even testify in court against a white person. Slaves weren't allowed to own guns. Even after the Civil war in the south, laws were passed so that blacks (no longer slaves) couldn't own guns.

They weren't part of the "we the people". Come on. We aren't really discussing this, are we?
 
Slaves had essentially no constitutional rights. They couldn't even testify in court against a white person.
You do know that there were plenty of white slaves as well, right?
Slaves weren't allowed to own guns.
False.
Even after the Civil war in the south, laws were passed
By northern reconstructionists who also had no problem returning escaped and sometimes even freed slaves back to the south.
so that blacks (no longer slaves) couldn't own guns.
Black slave owners as well as American Indian slave owners had no problem owning guns. The Cherokee even taught their slaves how to hunt using guns.
They weren't part of the "we the people". Come on. We aren't really discussing this, are we?
We're examining how ignorant you really are.
 
So I’ve read numerous articles supporting what I’ve said. If I’m wrong then please produce links accordingly.
 
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Maybe try reading comprehension class.
I would like it if some coward worried about doing a school shooting because some teachers had a gun in their desk.
In theory, the US could pass a federal law outlawing private ownership / possession of all firearms except the musket, and this would still be consistent with the Second Amendment.
Infringe on non musket gun ownership????????

Constitution was not drafted by men who play your word games.
 
Back
Top