Why Satan… Tomorrow?

Sketo said:
So God wants Satan to do evil tomorrow so God can show his wrath?

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God can show His wrath any time He desires to show it. Would you agree?

Whether you realize this or not, when you take this approach you're forcing here, you are making God dependent upon Satan.

So I'll ask you. Does God depend on Satan today?
 
Ontos said:
No

not stopping evil ≠ wanting evil
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So God knows exactly what Satan is going to do tomorrow, but God does not want Satan to do that tomorrow, and God could stop Satan, but chooses not to stop Satan from doing evil tomorrow...?‍♂️

Why?

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christ_undivided said:
God can show His wrath any time He desires to show it. Would you agree?
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Then what's the point of Satan doing evil tomorrow?

christ_undivided said:
Whether you realize this or not, when you take this approach you're forcing here, you are making God dependent upon Satan.
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No, for I believe God could stop Satin from doing evil tomorrow... if God wanted to stop him.

The fact that God determined that Satan would do evil tomorrow does not make God dependent on Satan.

christ_undivided said:
So I'll ask you. Does God depend on Satan today?
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“The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.” (Pro 16:4)

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Sketo said:
So God knows exactly what Satan is going to do tomorrow, but God does not want Satan to do that tomorrow, and God could stop Satan, but chooses not to stop Satan from doing evil tomorrow...?‍♂️

Why?

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"So God knows exactly what Adam & Eve is going to do tomorrow, but God does not want Adam & Eve to do that (evil) tomorrow, and God could stop Adam & Eve, but chooses not to stop Adam & Eve from doing evil tomorrow...?‍♂️"

Why?

As I said - because it's not according to God's will.
 
christ_undivided said:
God does stop Satan. God protected Job.
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Did you forget God knew Satan would kill Job’s children and Satan would strike Job with loathsome sores from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head…

…God did not stop him.

“And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, he is in your hand…”” (Job 2:6)

Did God want Satan to do what God knew Satan would do?

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Sketo said:
Then what's the point of Satan doing evil tomorrow?
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The word "longsuffering" is used in the Scriptures. I shared them earlier. As Theo referenced earlier, we must accept what the Scriptures declare.

"Longsuffering" is "forbearance". Tolerance. If you're saying that God desires evil and is dependent upon evil, then I believe you lose any sense of "tolerance".

Sketo said:
No, for I believe God could stop Satin from doing evil tomorrow... if God wanted to stop him.
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Tolerance. The fact that God will stop Satan forever, shows God has the desire but is tolerant for a reason.

Sketo said:
The fact that God determined that Satan would do evil tomorrow does not make God dependent on Satan.
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I believe it does. If you take the approach that it "couldn't happen any other way", then it creates a dependency.

Sketo said:
“The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.” (Pro 16:4)
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I agree.
 
Ontos said:
"So God knows exactly what Adam & Eve is going to do tomorrow, but God does not want Adam & Eve to do that (evil) tomorrow, and God could stop Adam & Eve, but chooses not to stop Adam & Eve from doing evil tomorrow...?‍♂️"

Why?

As I said - because it's not according to God's will.
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But why Satan?

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Sketo said:
Did you forget God knew Satan would kill Job’s children and Satan would strike Job with loathsome sores from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head…

…God did not stop him.
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Yes. God did. He stopped Satan from taking Job's life. Which Satan desired.

Job 2:6 And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, he is in your hand; only spare his life.”
 
Sketo said:
No, for I believe God could stop Satin from doing evil tomorrow... if God wanted to stop him.
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christ_undivided said:
Tolerance. The fact that God will stop Satan forever, shows God has the desire but is tolerant for a reason.
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“…God will stop Satan…”

So God does want Satan to do evil tomorrow… but not forever?

Sketo said:
The fact that God determined that Satan would do evil tomorrow does not make God dependent on Satan.
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christ_undivided said:
I believe it does. If you take the approach that it "couldn't happen any other way", then it creates a dependency.
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You are confusing God’s purpose being dependent on Satan with God himself being dependent on Satan.

I do not believe God himself is dependent on Satan but I do believe God’s purpose is dependent on Satan.

“The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.” (Pro 16:4)

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christ_undivided said:
There is very little to explain that question from the Scriptures. There is more to the "story" than what we know. We do know that Satan brought sin into this world and that Satan is called the "father" of sinners.
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Do you believe that was Gods purpose for Satan?…

“The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.” (Pro 16:4)

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Sketo said:
“…God will stop Satan…”

So God does want Satan to do evil tomorrow… but not forever?

You are confusing God’s purpose being dependent on Satan with God himself being dependent on Satan.

I do not believe God himself is dependent on Satan but I do believe God’s purpose is dependent on Satan.

“The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.” (Pro 16:4)

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I wouldn't disconnect God from His purpose. They are intertwined.

Can you explain how "longsuffering" fits into this? I've tried. Can you do it yourself. We know that the Scriptures say that God is longsuffering.
 
Sketo said:
Do you believe that was Gods purpose for Satan?…

“The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.” (Pro 16:4)

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I've said before that God's creation isn't impeccable. God is. This gets into what I was saying about "longsuffering". I'll wait till you explain longsuffering. Thanks
 
Sketo said:
Did you forget God knew Satan would kill Job’s children and Satan would strike Job with loathsome sores from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head…

…God did not stop him.

“And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, he is in your hand…”” (Job 2:6)

Did God want Satan to do what God knew Satan would do?
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christ_undivided said:
Yes. God did.
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No God did not stop Satan from kill Job’s children and striking Job with loathsome sores from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head…


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christ_undivided said:
I've said before that God's creation isn't impeccable. God is. This gets into what I was saying about "longsuffering". I'll wait till you explain longsuffering. Thanks
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“Longsuffering” does not explain why God allowed Satan into the garden of Eden.

Did God want Satan to enter the Garden?

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Sketo said:
No God did not stop Satan from kill Job’s children and striking Job with loathsome sores from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head…


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I said that God stopped Satan from killing JOB. I never said anything about his children.

You have repeatedly partially quoted Job 2:6

Job 2:6 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
 
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