Carbon
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Conviction is no joke
When we ask forgiveness He forgives us.
Your not saying you been born again numerous times are you?
Is faith a condition of salvation?
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American Gothic
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if He doesn't demand belief from All, how can Unbelief be sin?
"choose life..."
"I...am the life"
"repent, and believe..."
etc.
the full scope of L point is weird to me - the notion that Messiah died only for the elect
I'm just trying to understand more what it is based on
American Gothic
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there is no differing/diversity of thoughts within "Calvinism"? now or historically...
it's just full 5 point TULIP or nothing?
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Leatherneck0311
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As usual Calvinist talking points ignores scripture and context. God does NOT repent, believe, and or faith for us.
Everything we do in Christ is by grace through faith. Salvation is one of those things.
Theo1689
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Nice straw-man.
No Calvinist believes or teaches that
"God repents for us",
"God believes for us", or
"God faiths for us".
Why do you have to resort to MISREPRESENTATION?
TibiasDad
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Who needs faith (hope) for what they already have? (See Rom 8:24) Once we are in eternity our faith is made sight! We will know as we are fully known and there will be no need for faith, for we will see him as he is! Faith will be fulfilled!
Doug
Reformedguy
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Proverbs 16:4
Nope. We needed a Meditator. Many times "feeling" gets in the way of the truth.
The Good News isn't about "feelings"
American Gothic
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we can feel good about our place and the security we have in Him
I do
Yes we can, but that security does come from our "feelings", that security comes from believing God; the Spirit of truth.
Leatherneck0311
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Correct that assurance comes from faith in God.
Bob Carabbio
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OF course not. I ran away from it, and let it pass numerous times, until the LAST time. I probably would have run away that time also, EXCEPT I couldn't be sure that He'd Convict again (Gen 6:3). And NO, I don't necessarily "buy into" OSAS/Perseverance of the Saints. But that's a different topic.
Bob Carabbio
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To the Calvinist, anything less than all five makes you an "Arminian". Baptists, for the most part are not "Calvinist", since they don't support "L", or "I". But they will fight to the death for "P".
1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Acts 16:30–31 (KJV 1900) — 30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Christ death made possible the salvation of all and ensured the salvation of those with faith
Scripture makes that plainly clear should you desire to heed it
Carbon
Super Member
Do you think you had control over regeneration and let it pass until you decided it?
Huh? So you suspected God may not try to get your attention again and convict you? So you decided to give in?
Do you think maybe this was the process of being called and regenerated? God already had you and you were just going kicking and screaming?
Yea, that’s a different topic.
Carbon
Super Member
Can I give you some friendly advice?
Try context. ?
Got context?
Nope! Wrong!
Christ’s death actually saved. It made nothing possible.
Scripture is quite clear that Christ’s sacrifice accomplished what he came to do. I pray one day you will discover this mystery
Is there anything you do that merits salvation?
Carbon
Super Member
As long as you continue listening to the spirit of the world you’ll miss out on truth. The Bible is crystal clear to those who are trained to think biblically and taught by His word.
This is why you feel the need to keep repeating beliefs and theory’s which are not of scripture, or are taken out of context. Because it just don’t quite add up, does it? ? nope
Diz, if it’s not in the Bible, it’s not theology. It’s humanism.
Faith is believing. And it is by grace we believe. Faith is a gift you just cannot get of your own.
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Bob Carabbio
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Absolutely.
I had no control about it "Coming" (couldn't make it come - but, I COULD stay out of places that would bring it like Churches, or "the hour of decision" on radio). SO God got me 2000 miles away from home, and cornered me with my newly saved room mate.
Better than going to hell for eternity. Life was hell anyway.
I'm not a "Calvinist", and I don't use their terminology. All I know was that I was Convicted of my SIN again, but this time I surrendered, repented (as best as I knew how), and cried out to HIM to save me. And everything changed.
No question but that God was on my trail (the "Hound of Heaven" thing). Eventually, HE "ran me to ground".