What believers in God refers to and denotes.

Tercon

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Believers in God just believe that the truth, existence, consciousness, logic, morality, reality and ONLY a Edit per mod can make these things known to occur and exist. Edit per mod
 
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The Spirit allows men to believe truth savingly, as He gives us a new heart;
ezk 36:25-27
I cor2
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.
 
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14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
What aspect of man is made in the image of god?
 
What aspect of man is made in the image of god?
There are incommunicable attributes that belong to God alone....Omniscience, Omnipotence,Omnipresent His Divine Perfection in all things.
Man has communicable attributes......think of the fruits of the Spirit.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
 
He only does that through scripture.

Chapter 1: Of the Holy Scriptures​

1._____ The Holy Scripture is the only sufficient, certain, and infallible rule of all saving knowledge, faith, and obedience, although the light of nature, and the works of creation and providence do so far manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of God, as to leave men inexcusable; yet are they not sufficient to give that knowledge of God and his will which is necessary unto salvation. Therefore it pleased the Lord at sundry times and in divers manners to reveal himself, and to declare that his will unto his church; and afterward for the better preserving and propagating of the truth, and for the more sure establishment and comfort of the church against the corruption of the flesh, and the malice of Satan, and of the world, to commit the same wholly unto writing; which maketh the Holy Scriptures to be most necessary, those former ways of God's revealing his will unto his people being now ceased.
( 2 Timothy 3:15-17; Isaiah 8:20; Luke 16:29, 31; Ephesians 2:20; Romans 1:19-21; Romans 2:14,15; Psalms 19:1-3; Hebrews 1:1; Proverbs 22:19-21; Romans 15:4; 2 Peter 1:19,20 )
 
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Actually why do we call them "false beliefs" and "unjustified beliefs"; are you pretending that you don't know what "false" and "unjustified" means?

They are still beliefs. Beliefs can be false and/or unjustified.



Actually that's "perfect" demonstration of how and why atheists have no idea of how and why the truth and reality is only known by believers and not unbelievers.

Oh, this nonsense again. How many times do you need to be corrected on this? Atheists don't disbelieve everything, just one specific proposition.

Why do you find it so hard to remember this?
 
There are incommunicable attributes that belong to God alone....Omniscience, Omnipotence,Omnipresent His Divine Perfection in all things.
Man has communicable attributes......think of the fruits of the Spirit.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
But there seems to be an incongruency in your answer. Your first post states that the natural man cannot receive things spiritually discerned:
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
.... yet your explanation of what the image of God in man is exactly that..... spiritual.

First, why would God give us the characteristics of His image that we cannot discern?

Second, why did God make His spiritual image in man so effete and unimpressionable as to so easily be overstepped by man's nature? Do you we really have evidence then that God has power and any credible influence over nature, or is that just dogmatic and wishful thinking in the face of evidence that shows otherwise?

Did God give this world over to Satan? If so, why? How does this teach us the perseverance of love and His spirit of love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, and faith?
 
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Look up the word belief in the dictionary.

I have never seen a dictionary try to make the case that; "false" and "unjustified" beliefs are real beliefs in reality. Dictionaries are not a instruction book in what is true and existing in reality. We have the Bible for that purpose.
 
I have never seen a dictionary try to make the case that; "false" and "unjustified" beliefs are real beliefs in reality. Dictionaries are not a instruction book in what is true and existing in reality. We have the Bible for that purpose.
Dictionaries tell us what words mean. You don't know what the word belief means so you should probably look it up.
 
Of course false and unjustified beliefs are real. People believe many things that are wrong and/or unjustified.

You, for example believe that the word belief means something it does not, because you don't seem to be able to use a dictionary.
 
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But there seems to be an incongruency in your answer. Your first post states that the natural man cannot receive things spiritually discerned:

.... yet your explanation of what the image of God in man is exactly that..... spiritual.

First, why would God give us the characteristics of His image that we cannot discern?

Second, why did God make His spiritual image in man so effete and unimpressionable as to so easily be overstepped by man's nature? Do you we really have evidence then that God has power and any credible influence over nature, or is that just dogmatic and wishful thinking in the face of evidence that shows otherwise?

Did God give this world over to Satan? If so, why? How does this teach us the perseverance of love and His spirit of love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, and faith?
First, why would God give us the characteristics of His image that we cannot discern?

The scripture is clear we are image bearers of God. We are not God, but image bearers

Second, why did God make His spiritual image in man so effete and unimpressionable as to so easily be overstepped by man's nature? Do you we really have evidence then that God has power and any credible influence over nature, or is that just dogmatic and wishful thinking in the face of evidence that shows otherwise

Do not forget man was made good, but fell. The image of God was damaged and distorted. Those who are called, saved, and GLORIFIED, will be conformed to the Image of Jesus. Rom.8:29-30

Did God give this world over to Satan? If so, why? How does this teach us the perseverance of love and His spirit of love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, and faith?


Before the cross Satan was called the god of this world.He deceived the nations.
Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil, which he has done.
We are translated out of the Kingdom of darkness, into the Kingdom of light.
Greater is He that is in us, then he who is in the world.
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:


14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

The longsuffering of God results in the salvation of all he intends to save, no more, no less.

14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
 
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God has perfect knowledge...He knows, and is not dependent on anyone.

33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
 
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