The Arminian Lie Is A Gross Deception

God requires justice but not in the way that it mistakenly taught. God sees to it that justice is accomplished but not by making Jesus a scape goat for man's sins but by Jesus becoming a sacrifice for sins and eliminating the old man and replacing him with a new spiritual man. Thus, one must not only consider Jesus death but his resurrection as well. God does not need his justice satisfied because God is just and when God judges the world there will be positive results that glorify God. All will believe God and glorify God but many teach contra wise and teach a false gospel. God bless you.
Isa 53:4 Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted.
Isa 53:5 But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed.

He was crushed for our iniquities, upon Him was the chastisement....
16:22 And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.

You should stop trying to convince people that God does not require justice. That is a universal salvation conclusion and is false.
Should you carry on promoting Universal Salvation through your claims that Justice is "not needed" (not that I ever said God needs justice) but rather that His wrath remains on those who are outside of Christ and that He will justly deal with them, you should go to another website where you can freely promote your heretical beliefs.
 
Isa 53:4 Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted.
Isa 53:5 But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed.

He was crushed for our iniquities, upon Him was the chastisement....
16:22 And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.

You should stop trying to convince people that God does not require justice. That is a universal salvation conclusion and is false.
Should you carry on promoting Universal Salvation through your claims that Justice is "not needed" (not that I ever said God needs justice) but rather that His wrath remains on those who are outside of Christ and that He will justly deal with them, you should go to another website where you can freely promote your heretical beliefs.
It is man that was unjust and man that caused suffering for Jesus and crucified him and did the worst evil that on can do by putting Jesus to death. However, they do that whenever they sin. They have done that from the beginning. They cause their own suffering and they cause others to suffer by their sins. I have not said God does not require justice so why do you you say I said that? God is just and since God is just then God judges the world and what is the result of that judgement is reconciliation and not not an eternal fire but God's consuming spiritual fire that refines by moving impurity. However, it the new spiritual creation that goes through refinement because God has put the old man away. God will judge the whole world but not the old man who is put away but God who calls all to himself. God does call all to himself because Jesus said "if I be lifted up I will call all unto himself" and sin will be dealt with. It will be through God's refining fire!
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. '

1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

God did have his Son suffer ("he was made perfect through suffering"( and God made a sacrificial offering of Jesus to atone for our sins but not to appease God's wrath or as a substitution for fallen man. Jesus did not die in our place as a substitute for fallen man and take his place. God put away the old man and quickened the old man out of death and he rose up as a new spiritual creation. God is now dealing with the new spiritual man whose sins are remitted and is going through sanctification and purification not the old man who is dead with Jesus in his death.

Isa 53:4 Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted.

However, we wrongly esteeming Jesus as stricken, smitten by God and afflicted is a lie but it is man that did that! Yet Jesus has borne our griefs and carried out sorrows because he walked through the shadow of death with man and emphasized with man's sinful condition which brought about death.

God bless you. :)
 
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the result of that judgement is reconciliation and not not an eternal fire but God's consuming spiritual fire that refines by moving impurity.
Not all receive the Spirit of God.

You should stop teaching universal salvation.

There is an eternal fire. To claim otherwise is to deny Christ.
Mat_18:8 And if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire.
Mat_25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Mat_25:46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Mar_3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—

You are trying your very best to nullify the cross of Christ and the appeasement of the wrath of God and His justice
 
Not all receive the Spirit of God.

You should stop teaching universal salvation.

There is an eternal fire. To claim otherwise is to deny Christ.
Mat_18:8 And if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire.
Mat_25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Mat_25:46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Mar_3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—

You are trying your very best to nullify the cross of Christ and the appeasement of the wrath of God and His justice
Figurative language! Ask the Spirit for an interpretation. Also. than God for a Gehenna fire it is for the benefit of man. God bless you. God is not a monster! :)
 
Jesus was a living sacrifice for man's sins not a penal substitute dying in Adams place Jesus died with Adam in his death and Adam is dead with Christ in Jesus death. The old Adam dead in trespasses and sins is being replaced in Christ as a new spiritual creation and the old man is being put away.
The Jewish sacrificial system, of which Jesus was the ultimate fulfillment, was all about penal substitution. Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin.
Jesus was not sent into the world to sooth God's wrath which is the just penalty for death but to destroy death and that is through a new spiritual creation. God has shown his love for humanity and is not affected by the sins of Adam. God is sovereign and in control and all is gong according to God's plan and redemption is part of that. What God is doing for a single man God is doing for all of humanity. Adam is all of humanity.
What is it with you denying God's wrath? Jesus was sent into the world to satisfy God's justice. Why else did Paul, and I repeat it again, say that the writ of offenses held against us was nailed to Jesus cross? Jesus satisfied God's justice in His death. He took our penalty upon Himself, and paid a price that we could never pay. That is penal substitution. You will notice I never even said the word wrath. It is understood, and what it means is just understood. I understand, Jesus was hit with big feathers, but the translators mistranslated scripture to say that Jesus was tortured by the Soldiers, and the crown of thorns was actually a royal crown. He wasn't scourged, He was encouraged, right? They weren't ripping flesh off HIs back in flogging, but patting Him on the back, right? It pleased God to crush Him.
All have sinned and come short of the glory of God and God is saving every one and there are no exceptions:
Great, a universalist heretic.
To teach limited atonement as the Calvinist and Arminian doctrine does is to teach a false gospel. The Arminian say that they teach an unlimited atonement is an outright lie when they put restrictions on an unconditional covenant. Arminist and Calvinist doctrine deny Jesus atonement by making it incomplete and they mock God.
There is no way we can reach an understanding when you deny the Bible.
 
The Jewish sacrificial system, of which Jesus was the ultimate fulfillment, was all about penal substitution. Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin.

What is it with you denying God's wrath? Jesus was sent into the world to satisfy God's justice. Why else did Paul, and I repeat it again, say that the writ of offenses held against us was nailed to Jesus cross? Jesus satisfied God's justice in His death. He took our penalty upon Himself, and paid a price that we could never pay. That is penal substitution. You will notice I never even said the word wrath. It is understood, and what it means is just understood. I understand, Jesus was hit with big feathers, but the translators mistranslated scripture to say that Jesus was tortured by the Soldiers, and the crown of thorns was actually a royal crown. He wasn't scourged, He was encouraged, right? They weren't ripping flesh off HIs back in flogging, but patting Him on the back, right? It pleased God to crush Him.

Great, a universalist heretic.

There is no way we can reach an understanding when you deny the Bible.
Yes, Jesus shed his blood for remission of sins and that is for the new spiritual creation and what does the scriptures teach regarding God's love for mankind?
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Some love a lie more than the truth and teach a lie. They do not love all of God's teachings nor believe them or teach them. This applies to Calvinist and Arminist teachings.

Repent!

God bless you. :)
 
Yes, Jesus shed his blood for remission of sins and that is for the new spiritual creation and what does the scriptures teach regarding God's love for mankind?


Some love a lie more than the truth and teach a lie. They do not love all of God's teachings nor believe them or teach them. This applies to Calvinist and Arminist teachings.

Repent!

God bless you. :)
It teaches that there is nothing stopping God from throwing us all into hell, not even this fake cardboard cutout "love". It teaches that there are a lot of believers, and so-called believers who don't understand what God is love actually means when one considers all the aspects. Can God really be love if He casts anyone into hell, when He could save everyone?
 
It teaches that there is nothing stopping God from throwing us all into hell, not even this fake cardboard cutout "love". It teaches that there are a lot of believers, and so-called believers who don't understand what God is love actually means when one considers all the aspects. Can God really be love if He casts anyone into hell, when He could save everyone?
God casting Thanatos and Hades into the Lake if fire is part of the salvation process. It shows us that God is Savior of all! God bless you.
 
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