This 1 parable refutes all 5 points of calvinism- tulip

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Where does it say that "they all had life to begin with in each soil" in that parable Civic?

You made that up.

The parable is not showing that just because the word itself was alive, that this means that each soil received that life.

For being there was no fruit, then it means they didn't receive the life from the word and the reason why, was because there was no true repentance to break up the cluttered ground of their hearts to remove the rocks and thorns that hindered the word from giving life to their soils so that they could bear fruit.


There is a big, big difference from the word being alive and their soils receiving life from the word.
nothing grows without life-all the seed sprouted. I see you are another person who knows nothing about horticulture.

seeds are living things. the sower went out to sow seeds.

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nothing grows without life-all the seed sprouted. I see you are another person who knows nothing about horticulture.

seeds are living things. the sower went out to sow seeds.

hope this helps !!!
LOL, the seed itself sprouted but the ground of the heart never received life from the word to bear fruit.

Hebrews 6, "For the ground which drinks in the rain which often falls upon it receives blessing from God but that which bears thorns and briars is rejected and near unto cursing and whose end is to be burned.

Right from the start, if there is no fruit, then the ground (the heart) has no life from God within it period.

It matters not that the word itself has life, for if it didn't get into the good ground of a truly repentant heart to bear fruit, then the ground itself has no life from God within it period.
 
LOL, the seed itself sprouted but the ground of the heart never received life from the word to bear fruit.

Hebrews 6, "For the ground which drinks in the rain which often falls upon it receives blessing from God but that which bears thorns and briars is rejected and near unto cursing and whose end is to be burned.

Right from the start, if there is no fruit, then the ground (the heart) has no life from God within it period.

It matters not that the word itself has life, for if it didn't get into the good ground of a truly repentant heart to bear fruit, then the ground itself has no life from God within it period.
Until you understand basic horticulture yiu cannot understand the spiritual points Jesus made . It will elude you like it’s doing now with your conflating. Your Calvinist beliefs get in the way .

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Until you understand basic horticulture yiu cannot understand the spiritual points Jesus made . It will elude you like it’s doing now with your conflating. Your Calvinist beliefs get in the way .

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LOL you are over literalizing the parable to begin with but a seed can be thrown on the ground and sprout life from itself while never really entering into the ground to bear fruit and that is a fact dude.

The parable isn't about the seed by itself having life within itself but whether or not the ground becomes alive from the seed to bear fruit from that seed.
 
Yes they have missed the following truths and have twisted the parable of the soils . Tulip 🌷 is refuted in the parable in each point.

T- man can choose to hear, see and receive the gospel
U- all can choose to believe and receive as demonstrated in the parable of the 4 soils
L- all soils received the seed without exception
I- 3 soils resisted all but 1 soil remained faithful and did not resist
P- 3/4 soils ( minds/hearts )did not preserver in the faith

* And as we can see they all had life to begin with in each soil. Only something alive can be choked. You cannot choke the dead lol.
* And only something alive can be scorched by the Sun and withered.
* Only someone alive can receive the word in the heart and have it snatched away
* Only someone alive can receive the word with Joy and endure for a while

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You've gone off the deep end.
 
but the complete lack of defending your faith and the ad hominem- the white flag of defeat was duly noted once again.

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Even Calvin contradicts his own doctrine of LA.

But there were also false prophets among the people, as there will be false teachers among you also, who will stealthily introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master having bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. (2 Pet.2:1)

Calvin said :

Calvin preached that those for whom Christ died could be lost:

"It is no small matter to have the souls perish who were bought by the blood of Christ." (Sermon 6, 2 Tim 2:19, pg. 83, A Selection of the Most Celebrated Sermons of John Calvin, John Calvin)

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Calvin said :

Calvin preached that those for whom Christ died could be lost:

@Reformedguy

lost sheep 🐑 can be lost even calvin admitted it lol 😂

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Read it I quoted him .
He does not say that. You have not read, or misread Calvin's position on the "P" in TULIP.

40 years as a Calvinist. What a pitiful joke you played on yourself for 40 years.

John Calvin taught extensively the comfort of the doctrine of the preservation of the saints; namely, SALVATION CANNOT BE LOST.

This confirms my suspicions of your prejudicial readings of all things that disgree with you ... 🤔

Can anyone say, "but @Chalcedon is woke!!"
 
He does not say that. You have not read, or misread Calvin's position on the "P" in TULIP.

40 years as a Calvinist. What a pitiful joke you played on yourself for 40 years.

John Calvin taught extensively the comfort of the doctrine of the preservation of the saints; namely, SALVATION CANNOT BE LOST.

This confirms my suspicions of your prejudicial readings of all things that disgree with you ... 🤔

Can anyone say, "but @Chalcedon is woke!!"
He said it read it lol .

ad hom duly noted once again
 
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