With references supporting my claim by the Bible as well as mainstream Christian and secular sources.
Yet they don't actually support the truth.
I don't want to argue these for two reasons.
I don't argue.
You however are simply telling me that you don't actually want people to understand. You just demand that they accept what you want them to think.
That's not a godly practice.
1. I already have many, many times and it was a waste of time.
Seems pretty clear I wasn't involved in whatever those times were.
Sounds like you never actually understood what the goal was.
2. I don't need to. It's painfully obvious I'm right.
Well, this just tells me that you are a legend in your own mind.
What's curious is that you are convinced that just as long as you're satisfied, you don't need to explain anything, so others can understand what you're talking about.
So, using your own words....
It's painfully obvious to me that your beliefs are seriously wrong, based entirely on erroneous beliefs and tied to previously debunked and disproven dogma.
Making your materials, dogmatically held beliefs.
I suggested you provide a similar closing argument to the contrary and leave it to the discretion of the reader.
Metanoia, and believe the gospel of Jesus.
My points are stated above.
Anyone not already indoctrinated, should they stumble upon the two would probably have no interest or opinion on the subject.
So, you think that the only way to know what you think is true, is to be a totally unaware, and unfamiliar with any truth, at all?
This is a curiosity.
Because Paul explicitly stated that we're to examine ALL things, to cling to the good and abhor the evil.
We then read in Acts 17:11 that it's nobel to search the scriptures daily to determine if the things people are proclaiming are true or not.
Then, in Proverbs 3:5-6, we're further instructed to not lean on our own understanding, but to trust YHVH with all our hearts and acknowledge him in all our ways, and he will direct our paths.
We then read in Matthew 6:33 that by seeking first God's Kingdom and his righteousness, everything we need will be provided to us by God himself.
I find it quite interesting that you actually think that truth cannot be verified by anyone who has experience and awareness of any other ideas.
Such a mentality would mean that Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, jehovah's witnesses, mormons, Jews or any other people throughout the world would not be able to be saved, according to you.
Thankfully, YHVH says otherwise.
We read in Hebrews 7:25 that God saves to the uttermost ALL who come to him through Jesus Christ.
We further read in Deuteronomy 30 that the Israeli people were given the truth, and then told--
I have set before you life and death, choose life that you and your descendants may remain in the land and live.
Considering they'd been indoctrinated in Egyptian culture and beliefs, and had been cow worshippers, I'd say they were pretty indoctrinated by Egypt.
Yet they were actually able to learn the truth regarding YHVH and life.
If you think you do this for God or to teach and help people by defending God's word you might want to rethink that.
I don't need to. YHVH clearly stated that his word will achieve the purpose for which he gave it. My thoughts on the matter are utterly irrelevant to anyone else.
What's completely relevant is that YHVH's Word is alive and powerful. It's a two-edged sword of surpassing sharpness. It's so sharp that it is capable of separating out soul and spirit, bone and marrow, mind and heart.
There it is. The misapplied scripture you suppose to justify your position.
Yet you have nothing but your unsupported opinion to back this up.
So, there it is indeed! You reject the truth because it opposes your deception, yet have nothing to say why.
You have removed your heart far from him. Exactly as the scripture states. Exactly as Jesus said too.
The one teaching the Bible or the one teaching the pagan nonsense that was taught by the pagans prior to the Bible?
You.
And there that is. Your long diatribes have only two methods. It's curious . . . It's interesting . . .
Not really sure why you'd have a problem with this.
Especially when you keep making it clear that the bible can't actually be true, that I am not actually allowed to correctly quote, reference or provide an accurate application for the bible to your beliefs.
I'd expect that if your beliefs were valid and genuine, you'd be falling all over yourself to explain them rather clearly.
But instead....
You're claiming that you'd have to argue, instead of simply explaining the answers to the questions I've asked you.
The fact that I started an OP, dedicated entirely to your beliefs, and then dropped a group of questions, and have given you plenty of time to respond should demonstrate that I'm not interested in arguing.
I simply want an explanation, and then the items I have further questions about, ask, and you answer.
since you always disagree with me why is it you always find it curious or interesting?
Pretty basic.
I find myself curious why people would believe things about the bible which the bible doesn't actually say.
For example, the cross being a phallic symbol, when it's quite clear that Jesus died on a Roman cross.
I mentioned it to the men's group I'm in last week and one guy responded with a-huh? I've never heard that before. Others looked at me and laughed at the idea. One guy grew up in jehovah's witnesses home as an orphan and just shook his head.
Why not grow the sack to say I'm lying? It seems less hypocritical and disingenuous.
The concept of the immortal soul comes from Samaria, Babylon and Greece. It was eventually introduced into apostate Jewish and Christian theology directly through the influence of Greek philosophy, especially Plato. Through Alexander the Great in 332 BCE and Constantine the Great in 325 CE respectively.
The Bible, as I quoted, clearly states the soul dies and can be destroyed. (Ezekiel 18:4; Matthew 10:28)
Which is curious, because there are plenty of other places where Jesus talks about eternal suffering and misery, and agony.
This should raise the question to you about what death of the soul is.
In Ecclesiastes 12 we read that the body returns to the dust and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
So, there's more than just a soul.
We read further still in Ezekiel 36 that God will give us a new heart of flesh and a new spirit.
This tells me that there's more than just a soul to the human being.
Paul too states that there's a spirit, soul and body.
Stop fumbling about, you look silly.
Seems to me that you don't actually want others to understand what you believe and why.
I said I didn't want to debate it.
I'm not debating.
All I've asked is that you answer my questions.
It's not a debate. It's simply answering questions.
You and anyone else can of course, I can't stop you. But who would? The atheists? They only argue against the Christian perspective and that . . . is apostate. Not only are you mislead, but you mislead. The blind leading the blind.
So, biblical christianity is apostate?
Sounds like you're trying to start a new religion.