If you don't do that, you can't have this

[Our Lord's God]

Jesus died before he rose again to new life.

If you want to have the new life of the Spirit, you need to first die together with Christ.

Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into his death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
Romans 6:3-4

If you do not die together with him, you will not be raised up together with him to the new life in the Spirit.

If anyone wishes to come after me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save his soul will lose it but whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it. Matthew 16

He who does not take up his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me. Matthew 10:38

Jesus died first and was resurrected next. If you won't and don't die with him, you will not be raised up with him to new life.

But if you are willing to die with him.......

That same Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are children of God,

That is not just a set of words designed to impress us. It is the experiential reality of the children of God. It is unbelievably real to them and there is no vague guessing game as to whether God is testifying to them.

And if you are willing to die with him.......

For to us God revealed through the Spirit for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. 11 For who among men knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the things of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit that is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, 13 which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in teachings of the Spirit, spiritual ones discerning spiritual things.
1 Corinthians 2

They will all be taught by God. John 6:45

The Spirit of Truth leads us into all the the truth. John 16:13

Do you believe this? Or ignore it? Is this a reality for you or do you just resort to pretending that it isyou are being taught by the Spirit of God? Are you pretending because it is not a reality for you and so you don't know what else to do?

Most do not know the reality of being taught by the Spirit of God. This post explains why. The Spirit is life and you can't experience the resurrection life of Christ unless you first die together with him.

There is no need to pretend....... unless of course you refuse to die together with him......... if that is the case, pretending is all you have left.

 

[JonHawk]

Jesus died before he rose again to new life.

There is no need to pretend.......

He died for all, that those who live should live no longer pretend, but live in Him who died for them and rose again.
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; 2 Cor 5:15-17

 

[Gary Mac]

He died for all, that those who live should live no longer pretend, but live in Him who died for them and rose again.
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; 2 Cor 5:15-17

Yes' holy, pure, and without sin, perfect even as our Father in heaven is perfect Just as Jesus did when he met God in Matt 3:16. . .

 

[JonHawk]

The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 1 John 3:8

Yes' holy, pure, and without sin, perfect even as our Father in heaven is perfect Just as Jesus did when he met God in Matt 3:16. . .

But Christ has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.
As it is the portion of men to die once and after this face the music [certain] judgment for gnostics who reject Christ.

So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he appears a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation Heb 9:26-28

 

[Our Lord's God]

The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 1 John 3:8

But Christ has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.
As it is the portion of men to die once and after this face the music [certain] judgment for gnostics who reject Christ.

So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he appears a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation Heb 9:26-28

Did you not understand that these forums were for dialogue? And if you did, do you not understand what that means?

You can keep on totally wasting your time if you like but I just don't comprehend why you would want to do that.

 

[JonHawk]

JonHawk said:
The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 1 John 3:8

But Christ has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.
As it is the portion of men to die once and after this face the music [certain] judgment for gnostics who reject Christ.

So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he appears a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation Heb 9:26-28

Did you not understand that these forums were for dialogue? And if you did, do you not understand what that means?

You can keep on totally wasting your time if you like but I just don't comprehend why you would want to do that.

And you can keep wasting your time posting Scripture and missing the mark with your colorful footnotes.
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation through Christ Jesus,
...who gave himself to redeem us from all iniquity; And set apart believers;
These, then, are the things you should teach. Don't hate, appreciate. Titus 2:11-15

 

[Gary Mac]

The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 1 John 3:8

But Christ has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.
As it is the portion of men to die once and after this face the music [certain] judgment for gnostics who reject Christ.

Christ, Gods anointing, Gods Spirit in you would be Christ in you and does appear only once in us all who has received from God His Christ, anointing, to be Gods anointed ones. It is those agnostics who has not received His anointing, Christ in you as your hope of glory.

He hasn't appeared in you has He? You constantly reject the Christ because top you His ways to be anointed of God to have His same mind is gnostic lies just as you posted here. Fort you to have the Christ as Jesu had the Christ, Gods anointed is antichrist for you as you keep stating his way is gnostic lies.

So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he appears a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation Heb 9:26-28

It was Jesus who was sacrificed for having Gods Christ. Christ cant be sacrificed for Christ is a Spirit, Gods Spirit in man, to have the mind of Christ, Gods mind, Gods anointed one but you can be condemned for being anointed of God just as Jesus was.

 

[JonHawk]

JonHawk said:
The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 1 John 3:8

But Christ has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.
As it is the portion of men to die once and after this face the music [certain] judgment for gnostics who reject Christ.

So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he appears a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation Heb 9:26-28

Our Lord's God said:
Did you not understand that these forums were for dialogue? And if you did, do you not understand what that means?

You can keep on totally wasting your time if you like but I just don't comprehend why you would want to do that.

And you can keep wasting your time posting Scripture and missing the mark with your colorful footnotes.
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation through Christ Jesus,
...who gave himself to redeem us from all iniquity; And set apart believers;
These, then, are the things you should teach. Don't hate, appreciate. Titus 2:11-15

Christ, Gods anointing, Gods Spirit in you would be Christ in you and does appear only once in us all who has received from God His Christ, anointing, to be Gods anointed ones. It is those agnostics who has not received His anointing, Christ in you as your hope of glory.

Agnostics can't fathom what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power 2 which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places; Ephesians 1:17-21

Nor gnostics who are dead in trespasses; By grace you have been saved, 6 God raised us up together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in Christ Jesus. Eph 2

Declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead. 5 In Christ Jesus we have received grace and apostleship to promote the faith; Rom 1:4-5

 

[Gary Mac]

Did you not understand that these forums were for dialogue? And if you did, do you not understand what that means?

You can keep on totally wasting your time if you like but I just don't comprehend why you would want to do that.

Because of self righteousness and most of that he learned from Paul as a sinner. These try and justify their sin by using Jesus as a scapegoat.

 

[JonHawk]

Giving thanks to the Father who made us partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light. He delivered us from the power of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins. The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:12-15

Because of self righteousness and most of that he learned from Paul as a sinner.

Paul taught that in Christ we have redemption, which self righteous gnostics reject,
Gary Mac "I do reject redemption through Christ"

These try and justify their sin by using Jesus as a scapegoat.

And you delusional gnostics remain in sin like your father who has sinned from the beginning.

For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, to destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8