Reformed Heresy
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SovereignGrace
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@RCM has his NICKers in a knot, no?
preacher4truth
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He won't be fully defeated until after being let loose a short time. He is still active; Ephesians 6:11ff; 2 Corinthians 2:11ff.
Pure false misrepresentations. Behave like a professing believer and end the silly false charges. Thanks!
So we can watch you disregard the posts? LOL! I'll pass.
Then why doesn't your doctrine have Biblical support?
Like when you pit Scripture against Scripture and ignore others?
LOL!!!!!!!! The epitome of being disingenuous! ^^^^^^^^^
LOL!!!!!!! We're all aware that you're trolling because you disregard the texts we exegete to show your errors. Why would anyone bother supplying you more texts only to have you not treat them at all and dismiss them altogether?
Reformedguy
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Yes. LOL
RCM
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Does the Bible teach universalism? No
Does the Bible teach Limited Atonement? No
All Biblical Doctrine has Biblical Scriptural support
If you cannot quote Biblical Scripture to support 'Limited Atonement' it is an admission of a heretical doctrine!
RCM
SovereignGrace
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John 10:11,15 for starters is the proof he so blindly cannot see.
squirrelyguy
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I'll ask you a question that will hopefully enable you to answer your own question to me. Do you believe that the elect are saved before they turn to Christ? If not, why? Didn't Christ die for their sin of unbelief?
Theo1689
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No, I don't think you are.
My decision whether to engage someone is not based on the topic, it is based on the person. I tend to refrain from interacting with obnoxious posters. Case in point, I've made it VERY CLEAR to you that I have no desire to have a discussion with you, yet you continue to harass me anyway.
I have Biblical Scripture for EVERY doctrine I hold.
Whether I share them with people depends on whether they are Christian, or obnoxious.
It also depends on whether I believe they are essential for salvation. I don't believe LA is essential for salvation, so I CLEARLY have no desire to discuss the topic with someone who is simply going to mock and attack.
Bearing false witness is a sin.
- TU<L>IP - Limited Atonement
Limited Atonement is admittedly one of the last "points" accepted by Reformed believers, so much so that there is an entire group of four-point (TU_IP) "Calvinists, called "Amyraldians", who follow the tradition of Moses Amyraut. But as even Arminians are fond of saying, the five points either...
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- TU<L>IP - Limited Atonement
Limited Atonement is admittedly one of the last "points" accepted by Reformed believers, so much so that there is an entire group of four-point (TU_IP) "Calvinists, called "Amyraldians", who follow the tradition of Moses Amyraut. But as even Arminians are fond of saying, the five points either...
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1) We do NOT argue that "all doesn't mean all".
2) We do NOT "dismiss" 1 Tim. 2:4.
3) The fact that you feel the need to MISREPRESENT what we believe is one of the reasons I have no desire to engage with you. So please stop harassing me.
1) We do NOT argue that "world doesn't mean world".
2) We do NOT "dismiss" John 1:29.
3) The fact that you feel the need to MISREPRESENT what we believe is one of the reasons I have no desire to engage with you. So please stop harassing me.
Bearing false witness is a sin.
- TU<L>IP - Limited Atonement
Limited Atonement is admittedly one of the last "points" accepted by Reformed believers, so much so that there is an entire group of four-point (TU_IP) "Calvinists, called "Amyraldians", who follow the tradition of Moses Amyraut. But as even Arminians are fond of saying, the five points either...
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I'm sorry you believe the devil is "only partially defeated" (YOUR words).
We believe the devil is COMPLETELY defeated.
It's not a "heresy".
But you are free to agree to disagree.
Theo1689
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That's not how it works.
ReverendRV
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SovereignGrace
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Maybe they got raptured and you’re “Left Behind”???
CookedGoose
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There's no distinction between the Jew and the Greek, the same Lord is Lord over all
Paul defines "all" as Jews plus Greeks, you're defining it as every single person.
You're using a modern context instead of the biblical context.
See above. Read Acts 15
The apostle John wrote "I lay down My life for the sheep.......and you are not My sheep" in John 10
and you're claiming he says "He's the propitiation of sins for every single person?
Is John confused or are you? One of you is wrong.
You're taking very common biblical terms out of their biblical context, words like
1 All
2 World
3 Everyone
Read Acts 15
ok
Why? How?
RCM
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Jesus said it is finished - John 19:30
Paul said it is done - Ephesians 1:20-22; Colossians 2:15
The judgment is done, the sentence is yet to take place, there is a big difference!
RCM
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The Reformed position on 'Limited Atonement' is, "Messiah's work was never intended for those whom God knew would never believe"
Unfortunately, there is no Biblical Scripture that supports such a statement, however, there is Biblical Scripture that completely refutes such an erroneous statement
Romans 5:12 "Therefore, just as through one man the sin entered into the world, and through the sin the death, and so the death spread to all men, because all sinned"
John 1:29, "The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!"
1 John 3:8, "The one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil."
1 John 2:1-2, "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world."
Hebrews 2:14, "Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil"
The Law of Non-contradiction is in play here! The Bible completely refutes the Reformed doctrine of 'Limited Atonement' as nothing but heresy!
The New Testament Scriptures are consistent with the theology of the Old Testament
The 'Day of Atonement' offering was for the whole Nation of Israel
God had always been providing an atonement covering for the Gentile Nations through the Nation of Israel on the Feast of Tabernacles in that 70 bulls were offered for the 70 Gentile Nations (Numbers 29) until God sent His Son into the world - John 3:16-21
The Greek with the definite article and 'sin' in the singular in Romans 5:12 and John 1:29 is irrefutable!
RCM
RCM
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Please state Biblical Scripture that supports Reformed 'Limited Atonement'
All Biblical Doctrine has Biblical support
If you cannot quote Biblical Scripture to support Reformed 'Limited Atonement' then it is an admission of heresy!
RCM
CookedGoose
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preacher4truth
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preacher4truth
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