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    The Resurrection

    Two things that the Bible says. 1. the dead know nothing – Ecclesiastes 9:5 2. there is going to be a resurrection – acts 24:15 Add those two together and it is evident that a dead person will have no awareness of the time that passes between his death and his resurrection: dying and being...
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    A bizarre definition of morality from the guy who loves to tell us he's more moral than the God whom he supposedly doesn't believe exists

    It teaches us that they were sinless up until the time they sinned. But even sinless people can grasp the concepts of good and evil. No it does not, it teaches us that Eve ate because she was deceived. After eating Adam and Eve came to know what they did not know prior to eating: that they...
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    A bizarre definition of morality from the guy who loves to tell us he's more moral than the God whom he supposedly doesn't believe exists

    You don't know that. They didn't pursue anything. The idea of eating was presented to Eve by a third party who presented eating as a way to be like God in knowing good and bad. You want to abbreviate it to "being like God" but the full statement was; being like God in knowing good and bad...
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    A bizarre definition of morality from the guy who loves to tell us he's more moral than the God whom he supposedly doesn't believe exists

    The purpose of capital punishment is to remove sources of needless pain and suffering. john
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    A bizarre definition of morality from the guy who loves to tell us he's more moral than the God whom he supposedly doesn't believe exists

    You use an unknown word in order to make your point. It is the unknowness of the word that makes your point. The serpent used the words good and bad to make his point. His point being: eat from the tree and know good and bad just like God does. I will give you that neither Adam nor Eve knew...
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    Just So You Know ...

    Faith in something is the foundation of every statement of fact. john
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    A bizarre definition of morality from the guy who loves to tell us he's more moral than the God whom he supposedly doesn't believe exists

    The serpent said to Eve: you can be like God in knowing good and bad. If Eve had never heard of good or bad up until this point then we might expect Eve to ask of the serpent, what do you mean by good and bad? I think that his use of the terms good and bad in his argument with Eve means that...
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    A bizarre definition of morality from the guy who loves to tell us he's more moral than the God whom he supposedly doesn't believe exists

    And again, that is not what scripture says. It says that God has allowed us to be subjected to pain and suffering so that we will be set free from corruption. john
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    A bizarre definition of morality from the guy who loves to tell us he's more moral than the God whom he supposedly doesn't believe exists

    Starvation and rape are aspects of a godless world. They are proof positive that the godless world is a violent world of degredation that has no right to exist. But one cannot say that the godless world has no right to exist until it reveals its true nature. Scripturally speaking this godless...
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    A bizarre definition of morality from the guy who loves to tell us he's more moral than the God whom he supposedly doesn't believe exists

    The wicked, from satan on down to his lowliest minion cannot do a wicked thing except that God has allowed them to exist. And God allows the wicked to exist for his purposes. Take the example of Job, Jehovah allowed satan to do what he wanted with Job. He did not make satan mistreat Job...
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    A bizarre definition of morality from the guy who loves to tell us he's more moral than the God whom he supposedly doesn't believe exists

    We have already covered this point: it is not immoral to inflict suffering on another for a worthy purpose. john
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    A bizarre definition of morality from the guy who loves to tell us he's more moral than the God whom he supposedly doesn't believe exists

    Eve must have had some concept of it or else the thought of being like God knowing good and bad would have been meaningless to her. That she could come to know good and bad like God was the crux of the serpents argument. If she did not have some idea of the concepts of good and bad, then that...
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    A bizarre definition of morality from the guy who loves to tell us he's more moral than the God whom he supposedly doesn't believe exists

    They knew that disobeying God would lead to their deaths. Eve must have known something about "good and bad" or else the serpent's statement that they would be like God in knowing good and bad would have been meaningless to her. That is an opinion that is not supported by the narrative. john
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