Recent content by Simpletruther

Can you briefly lay out the logical fallacy you were referring to?

People on both sides say that kind of stuff. I agree it's ill advised. But so is your armchair amateur psychological diagnosis. Some people think it just fits scripture and logic better.

Who says?

Non created God like himself? Not sure what you are referring to. Who says that?

There is a limit, he can only know what there is to be known. God causes things yes.

To be fair we all appeal to mystery at some point. We can't explain how God's word exerts power. By what mechanism?

Only determinism makes things absolutely necessary. Paul was not remotely claiming that his pulling rank and insisting philemon do the right thing would render it absolutely necessary. Again that would be absurd. And it is only in this absolute sense of necessary would your argument work...

So where is the claim that unbelievers are not alive in the spirit? Van you highlight that part? It's moot anyone as it is by the word that regenerates, and those that have new life believe that word.

Your assertion above, even if it were true, would not be evidenced AT ALL in this passage, that has nothing to do with determined. As I just demonstrated in the last post, the passage has nothing to do with libertarian free will and determinism. Most anyone on your own side would admit that.

Sure. And I know the exact quantity. All there is to know. :)

And what the necessity was, is defined in the context. Basically Paul pulling rank on him and insisting he take the save back. And it's absurd to claim that would remove his free will in the libertarian sense.

His knowledge certainly is.

You said something. Then referenced scripture that doesn't match your claim in the least.

Ok. Can we agree that PAUL is not using the word "necessity" in a determinitive way? He is not contrasting a deterministic verses libertarian free choice? He is not claiming he will literally determine philemons choice by pulling rank on him and demand he take the slave back?

And what about after you are in heaven, can you fall away then or is your free will taken away And you become a "robot". Those seem the only two options your side presents.