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     Sabbath Day Salvation

    My wife comes from a Charismatic background. I told her I had issues with the Charismatic movement. So do lots of people. I had a book about the problems that I asked her to read. I thought it would be a good way to open up discussion and study the issue. Looking at different positions and...
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     How Eternal Life is Maintained

    Yes. I can't compete with Ellen White's ability to add and take away from scripture. I especially appreciated the subtle addition to scripture in this claim of hers: as long as people obey God and eat from the tree which sustains their life then there would be no death. God didn't say that...
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     How Eternal Life is Maintained

    I can live with that.
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     How Eternal Life is Maintained

    We're getting into dead horse territory now. I don't have much to add to my point of view. People can judge what I wrote as they wish. The problem confronted is we are speaking of two completely different systems. To better understand yours, I looked up Ellen White on the subject, and now your...
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     How Eternal Life is Maintained

    If a person has to "maintain" eternal life, then they don't have eternal life. They have "regular" life prolonged by maintenance. Take away the maintainence, and the life ends, which is death. Having to "maintain" eternal life in the Garden of Eden pre-sin and in heaven post-sin, is to have...
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     How Eternal Life is Maintained

    The Bible spells out the work flow of death. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned (Romans 5:12). The fall into sin had to happen before death could happen. Therefore, death was not part of the equation...
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     How Eternal Life is Maintained

    I didn't wave my hand at anything. I jumped to what I found most interesting. I don't particularly care to do the back-and-forth on 1 Timothy 6:16. People can use Google for that. I found the implications I haven't seen before much more intriguing. But, for the sake of your position, let's say...
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     How Eternal Life is Maintained

    Are you saying that if a sinless Adam and Even did not eat from the Tree of Life, they would have died, because they needed the Tree of Life to continue to live? The Bible says that death is a result of sin. The Bible said Adam and Eve would die if they ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good...
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