You are not listening. What part of "That men can be angels" didn't you understand?
Great, so you understand.
Did you? Not once did you even quote the passage. You're not taking it seriously. You are just excusing its existence and attacking me.
Rotfl.... you've quoted it enough, and I've rebutted. I think you're a bit too sensitive.
Try arguing for your dogma as opposed to arguing it's possible and just asserting it.
FYI, Genesis 32:30 screams out that Jacob meet YHWH face to face. Jacob, the prophet who regularly interacted with angels, was socked that he was still alive after wrestling some guy? That's absurd. Why would Jacob, who saw the ladder, be surprised to be alive after wrestling a random human when he experienced that? Why would he name the place Paniel? Oh because he was blessed? Really? Talk about stretching things beyond credulity. Are you a politician by triad? That man blessed him. That man didn't say God will bless you like in the shema. He blessed him. Does Israel's name mean he struggled agains YHWH, or some random dude who could technically be called a god? After all, the text says "Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed." Does it mean he struggled with men and mighty men? Or, does God mean what God normally means in the Tanakh? The deeper I look into this passage, the stronger my case gets. But, stick with your excuses. It's alway more rational to ignore what Scripture says and go with your rabbis' dogma. NOT!
Rotfl... The opening of Genesis 32 shows Jacob interacting with men that are also called angels, and part of the camp of God. There's no mention of YHWH here, nor any mention of God being meek here or anywhere else. Come back with some evidence, DOGB.
Normal. A Mighty God doesn't lose in a fight.
Not in the least. And if you read the paragraph I just reposted, you would know that. That's the point of that paragraph.
Even your elongated explanation above doesn't help you.
You're still not listening. Did you realize I was summarizing the logic of our conversation? Did you even care?
Your logic makes zero sense and is unsupported.
Are you that argumentative? I say I understand you position, and you still attack?
Great, I hope you understand.
It's interesting that you think such assertions are meaningful. They aren't in anyway. They neither interact with what I just said nor argue against any position I hold. They are just opinions.
Just like the trinity is an unsupported opinion, bad one at that.
And? God is all-powerful. God can do anything. So, why do you think the heavenly host can never take up a body and walk on earth as man?
Because God said He isn't a man on at least 3 occasions. God has no hint of sin or possibility of it. Being human adds that possibility. That's an inherent fault and imperfection, DOGB.
Your general statement that God is all-powerful and can do anything is pretty funny and filled with contradictions. I'll prove it to you here. Is it possible for God to be sinful, imperfect, misjudge, selfish, etc. If your answer is no, then you debunk your statement that God can do anything and that He can be a Man.
And, why couldn't a created force take on human flesh?
I didn't say that wind, air, isn't part of the human make-up. But, they are created, and God isn't.
Jacob was able to see them going up and down the ladder?
That was a dream.
Gabriel had to get Michel to help him meet up with Daniel, and he appeared as a man.
Nothing says Gabriel nor Michael are supernatural. Either way, they are created.
So again, if an angel can appear as a burning bush, then why couldn't he appear as a man?
Because God isn't created, and He specifically says He isn't a man that can sin, lie, etc. It isn't hard to understand.
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