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    9 Ways Roman Catholic Priests Aid Another in Sin

    It's not my institution. ...just sayin' But I agree it would be contradictory to say here are 9 things priests... must not do (n) ....are allowed to do (y), must not do (n), are allowed to do(y), must not do (n), are allowed to do (y), must not do (n), are allowed to do (y), must not do (n)...
  2. Lion IRC

    9 Ways Roman Catholic Priests Aid Another in Sin

    If you get a chance, I would be interested in your explanation why they (the RCC) would publish that list of 9 things priests are NOT supposed to do, if (as you claim,) the RCC approves of such behaviour. [Such a] claim seems self-contradictory. Edit - I mistook balshan as the originator of...
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    Hi

    Welcome @keiw I'm relatively new here too. 🍹
  4. Lion IRC

    9 Ways Roman Catholic Priests Aid Another in Sin

    I'm confused. Isn't this a list of things you should NOT do? Why would the RCC publish a list of 9 things priests shouldn't do, if the RCC was in favor of those 9 things?
  5. Lion IRC

    Are there two versions of the 10 commandments found in Exodus?

    Exodus 20:2-17 and Deut. 5:6-21
  6. Lion IRC

    Why I was suicidal as an agnostic; Why I wonder why all agnostics are not.

    Stiggy, I've heard a strong rebuttal of this notion. It's called the..."enjoy it while it lasts" argument from pure hedonism. Proponents claim one can actually get MORE enjoyment from something done as a 'bucket list' ...once in a lifetime experience. We should all be careful of how we...
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    Thought Experiment

    A philosophical argument for the existence of God is NOT "speaking for" God. Paul's writing is full of ideas and Greek philosophy drawn from philosophers such as Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, Seneca, Euripides...and he uses this deliberately because he knows his audience ARENT going to be...
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    Thought Experiment

    That's the exact opposite of what I said. ffs Did you even read what I wrote?
  9. Lion IRC

    Thought Experiment

    But Romans 1:20 isn't someone claiming to speak for God. Paul is making a philosophical argument to an audience of folks who were, effectively, unbelievers. He isn't saying....please, you gotta believe me because God told me to tell you. The argument from contingency doesn't require divine...
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    Thought Experiment

    Well, I'm biased from the get go because I already think extraterrestrial life forms exist. I dont have a default setting of skepticism. A pagan polytheist thinks there's a rain god and a moon god and a fertility god. I'm already on their side to the extent that they are almost onto something...
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    Thought Experiment

    I'm going to use that time-honoured ploy of CS Lewis when faced with such a dilemma (trilemma) and appeal to the best explanation. Is the claim more plausible than its negation? Is the alternative theory harder to believe?
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    How did Paul know it was Jesus?

    Take each claim on its merits. Someone tells me they saw an extraterrestrial life form ...why should I disbelieve? AND why should I believe.
  13. Lion IRC

    How did Paul know it was Jesus?

    All evidence is derived from the senses.
  14. Lion IRC

    Thought Experiment

    Well, yes. I agree. It needs to be demonstrated whichever theory someone proposes. Where do you stand on the question? - Past eternal, perpetual motion machine? An infinite regress of Groundhog days? - Unpredictable, unexpected, spontaneous chance? Poof. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing...
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    BIBLICAL TERMS not understood by RCs

    Contribute what? I'm still trying to understand what basis you have for your unsupported assertion. Help me out. ...says the person who just waived me goodbye.
  16. Lion IRC

    BIBLICAL TERMS not understood by RCs

    I haven't seen. Show your evidence. Support your claim. Citation needed. From what prior meaning to what subsequent meaning. Can you provide even one example to support your claim?
  17. Lion IRC

    BIBLICAL TERMS not understood by RCs

    It's your Op. Defend it yourself.
  18. Lion IRC

    BIBLICAL TERMS not understood by RCs

    What are the competing definitions of; Baptism Prayer Saints Repent
  19. Lion IRC

    BIBLICAL TERMS not understood by RCs

    Post your biblical definition and see who disagrees. This seems pretty simple. Angel greets Mary. Not complicated. How is that word hard to understand? From what meaning to what different meaning? Maybe you can provide an example. Dont be vague. Use quotations. Citations.
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    Thought Experiment

    Contingency is a safe assumption in many cases. (Sand dune versus Sand Sculture) Just because theism uses that reasoning to make a certain case doesn't make the reasoning itself unsound. Yes, investigated precisely because intelligent causes/agency are a known possibility. We don't...
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