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So if it could have gone on it's own, how did you determine God was responsible?

You tell me, you believe this stuff.

Was it impossible that that was bothering you could have gone away on its own?

If you start by believing in the first place, you can never know you've found the real thing. What rewards do you get by earnestly seeking?

None of the atheists here think this is true JAG, and you're not giving a reason to think it is. This includes the Bible.

I tried it once in a desperate moment. I got nothing back. I think the reason I got nothing back is that despite asking, I couldn't get past my epistemic reasons for not believing.

So what did you say? How do you know it was from the holy spirit?

Bu amorality is already a moral position.

Because the ideas of numbers and logic need a mind to realise them, just the ideas of right and wrong need a mind to be realised. It's not hard to realise when we're treated unfairly or when we're wronged.

What am I to think? That the all powerful God of the universe would cause you to talk in a nonsensical manner, or that you were having a psychological, emotional reaction to the idea of God and all that follows from it.

Ok. Our little exchange started with you saying ... "So, if God can save a wretch and brute like me, He can save you too". I'm not so sure because you had no objections to Christianity, no standard of evidence that would need to be met before belief. The atheists here have and they view a...

What's that? Your best guess? How many times do I have to tell you no, I can't because I haven't studied the subject. Have you? Just because I can't show you doesn't mean there isn't a natural explanation. I'm not the one making claims borne out of ignorance, you are and you are refusing to...

You're dodging. And what would I find out if I did? Presumably you know, right? So what science says what cells can't come about by natural means?

Your usual dismissal rather than properly dealing with the issue. I wish you knew more but it's obvious you don't.

But I keep telling you and it keeps sailing over your head that I can't answer your questions because I don't have enough knowledge. There are two possibilities, your cells thingy was designed by God or brought about by evolution. All you've done is say, it's all too complicated, but you don't...

I take your point. I think both of my points have some merit, but I don't think the poster is going to pay much attention to either.

I thought that might be it. I wonder what objections to Christianity you had that feeling it in your heart could overcome? What evidence does a changed heart bring to the table to overcome any objections and show Christianity true?

You didn't answer the question, who did you ask and what were their qualifications? Your whole thing above is still an argument from personal incredulity. You're saying it's all too complex to come about naturally, when you have no expertise in this subject. You are not giving any information...

What would be interesting would be to know what changed your mind, to see if that reason would change mine. Somehow I doubt it.

Who did you ask and what were their qualifications? Because I don't have the education. I keep telling you this. All you're doing here is asking questions rather than giving information in favour of your case. You seem to be implying that it all couldn't come about naturally but you're giving...