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Respectfully I have to disagree. It seems to me that you have already determined what your theology will be, and no amount of scriptural reasoning, no matter how plausible, is going to change that. So we will have to leave it at that, and agree to disagree.

God made special promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob concerning their descendants because of their righteousness. But those promises are not unconditional to their descendants. Each Israelite is responsible for their own individual actions, and are liable to be saved or destroyed based on...

God treats all nations alike. He destroys the nations of the wicked, and preserves the nations of the righteous: Deuteronomy 9: 4 Speak not thou in thine heart, after that the Lord thy God hath cast them out from before thee, saying, For my righteousness the Lord hath brought me in to possess...

And what has that got to do with Matthew 25? God treats all nations the same: Acts 10: 34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

You are just ignoring the scripture, simple as that. The scripture says nothing about "how they treated Israel". It has nothing to do with that. You are inventing that yourself. The scripture is about judgement-day, and the criteria used by God to determine who will go to heaven and who will go...

You are missing the point. You had argued that they "righteous" are those who had been automatically and predeterminedly given eternal life, thus effectively bypassing the judgement day described in Matthew 25:31-46. This is what you had said: That doesn't square with the text of the...

How about those who close their eyes to the truth altogether, you know, like Calvinists have a reputation of doing.

Contradicting the words of Jesus. No need to add more.

So who are those “nations” to whom Jesus said: Matthew 25: 34 . . . Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36...

You are questioning the word of God, not me: Matthew 25: 31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations [and religions]: and he shall separate them one from...

Not quite. What I mean is that everyone has a divinely given conscience, which enables them to discern between good and evil, right and wrong. The Spirit of Christ lighteth every man that comes into the world, not just some men (John 1:9). Everyone also has a divinely given moral agency, a...

Sorry, your word against God’s. I choose God’s.

Argue that with Paul, not me! I didn’t say that, he did!

Not according to Paul in Romans 6–16, which I had quoted in Post #41 of this thread. You don’t even need to be a Christian to be saved, provided you do what is good and right in the sight of God out of a good conscience, as Paul states in that scripture. If your religious pride, arrogance, or...

Nobody knows God to perfectness. Moses knew him better than most, but still not to perfectness. No degree of the knowledge of God should be discounted, discredited, despised, or rejected just because it is not perfect. If they had a “zeal of God,” that is still better than no knowledge at all...

Romans 10: 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. They couldn’t have a “zeal of God” if they were totally ignorant of him.

They knew enough about God for Jesus to be able to say to them: John 8: 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: You are quoting that line way out of context. If you pull scripture out of context...

You are simply stating your own theology without regard to what the scripture (Romans 2:6-16) is saying. You may find that satisfactory, but not me.

I am not sure what your point is. It is possible to believe in God, and yet not obey him; and it is also possible not to believe in God, or not know the true and living God, but still obey him, or do what is good and right out of a good conscience: Romans 2: 6 Who will render to every man...

Sorry, I believe the word of God more: Genesis 22: 16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the Lord, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the...