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  1. Tiburon

    God's Knowledge

    Wrong. Answering Yes would indicate "Always". Just as No, would indicate "Never". So "Sometimes" is not "Yes". Knowledge is a form of belief because it is a subset of belief. Belief is not a subset of knowledge. All knowledge is belief but not all belief is knowledge.
  2. Tiburon

    Majority of scholars? Who, and where?

    Who would those 3 people be? Did you meet them in the flesh? I don't find it curious that people who don't believe what you believe give no mind to what the bible says about where we came from. That would be curious, if it were true. I try to evaluate scholarly claims with the same rigor as I...
  3. Tiburon

    God's Knowledge

    This is not an argument. It is just a bunch of questions to which you have provided unsupported answers. 1. Does Belief come before knowledge? Sometimes. 2. Does Belief inform knowledge? Sometimes. 3. Do Beliefs form knowledge? Sometimes. 4. Does Belief become knowledge? Sometimes. C...
  4. Tiburon

    A question for the Brits among us...

    I took "twaddle" to be a polite way of calling BS. "drivel" is pointless nonsense.
  5. Tiburon

    A question for the Brits among us...

    I'm sorry but this whole thread is total drivel.
  6. Tiburon

    Atheist's inability to know how the truth and reality works.

    You think you do, but you really don't show that to be the case. Without perception we have nothing to think about.
  7. Tiburon

    Atheism is a delusion.

    Your comprehension skills are sadly lacking. I'm afraid that I cannot explain in terms simple enough for you to grasp. If I can't find any "reasons to believe" it is likely not demonstrably true. You haven't presented any verifiable truth. My inability to refute your claims is the result of...
  8. Tiburon

    Atheist's inability to know how the truth and reality works.

    As far as conditional logic goes, you do not. Knowledge of the truth and reality is impossible without first perceiving it.
  9. Tiburon

    Majority of scholars? Who, and where?

    Correct. I am not 2000 years old. No. That's the great thing about books. The writer can put whatever words they like into the mouths of their characters. So it wasn't about truth, it was about what you wanted. I must have missed it. Ok. And you believe the thought because of the emotional...
  10. Tiburon

    Majority of scholars? Who, and where?

    Is every PK the same? What does knowing that I am a PK tell you about me? What I'm "terrified" of is the cliched BS that you'll trot out in response to that nugget of information. And why would someone bother to engage with something they didn't believe in? Do you engage daily with fairies or...
  11. Tiburon

    Atheism is a delusion.

    Relevant. I was asking you if your belief was based upon believing for no reason. I was seeking clarification of your previous response. I'm sorry if that wasn't obvious to you. I did looked for reasons to believe and found none. No, I am disagreeing with your claims about reality. You have...
  12. Tiburon

    Atheist's inability to know how the truth and reality works.

    Strawman. You still don't understand the difference between necessary and sufficient. You have yet to provide any justification for believing, that what you claim, is actually the truth. As you previously agreed "no-one believes something for no reason". So what is your reason?
  13. Tiburon

    Atheist's inability to know how the truth and reality works.

    Guilt is the result of social programming. It has nothing to do with God.
  14. Tiburon

    Atheist's inability to know how the truth and reality works.

    Strawman. No one (as far as I'm aware) claims that belief and a believing mind aren't necessary. What atheists or anyone else but you, don't believe is that belief is sufficient to make the truth known. I don't think anyone claims that it isn't necessary.
  15. Tiburon

    Atheism is a delusion.

    Once again you fail to understand what a strawman is. I said "Belief based simply on believing for no reason?" Do you see that symbol near the end? That is a question mark. It indicates a question. You stated the your belief was based upon belief itself. That seems circular. I was asking you to...
  16. Tiburon

    Majority of scholars? Who, and where?

    You mean pigeon hole, don't you? I too thought of it as a malady. I no longer see it that way. I did think my relationship with God and Jesus was important, that is why I sought to reverse my drifting away. I don't find that a curious thing. I did want to retain the knowledge of God. But you...
  17. Tiburon

    You can't know atheism is true unless God exists.

    The author presents no reason why "If there is no God everything is purely material". Everything could be purely material even if there is a God. Or there could be something more than material without there being a God. We could all be souls or spirits inhabiting the flesh, that wouldn't...
  18. Tiburon

    You can't know atheism is true unless God exists.

    "If there is no God everything is purely material, including ourselves." False dichotomy.
  19. Tiburon

    Atheism is a delusion.

    Strawman. Where did I say that people are "believing for no reason". Wrong. People believe many things that are not true. A colour blind person may believe something is green when in actuality it is red, to everyone else. That something is evidence that supports a particular claim may be...
  20. Tiburon

    Majority of scholars? Who, and where?

    If you thought you were an atheist then I'd say you were an atheist. My gripe is with theists who say "I used to be and atheist" as part of their coming to God story, as if they had previously arrived at atheism through an honest appraisal of the arguments, and then come to the "truth". When in...
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